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04-07-2011, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by indoorFlakes
there is the appearance of ego....
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yes there seems to be what we call ego, but where is this ego, its what we call our-self, our so called personality, its all conditioning of the mind, the whole story is in the mind, the ego means nothing to anything other than the mind, divine, higher-self, these are also in the mind, take the mind away and there is just what IS.
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04-07-2011, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by psychoslice
yes there seems to be what we call ego, but where is this ego, its what we call our-self, our so called personality, its all conditioning of the mind, the whole story is in the mind, the ego means nothing to anything other than the mind, divine, higher-self, these are also in the mind, take the mind away and there is just what IS.
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well there seems to be... as u say... yes.... because its only an appearance... thats y u cant find it.. cuz it doesnt literally exist to be found.... but it exists as an appearance... and to say it doesnt exist AT ALL... imo is not clear....
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04-07-2011, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by indoorFlakes
well there seems to be... as u say... yes.... because its only an appearance... thats y u cant find it.. cuz it doesnt literally exist to be found.... but it exists as an appearance... and to say it doesnt exist AT ALL... imo is not clear....
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Where is sound without a mechanism to convert the vibration to what we call sound, of course the mind converts the vibration of a tree falling to what we call the sound of a tree falling. But without the mind there is no sound, there is just vibration, so without mind there is no ego, no divine self, no duality, there is just what IS, and not even that.
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04-07-2011, 02:06 AM
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Where is sound without a mechanism to convert the vibration to what we call sound, of course the mind converts the vibration of a tree falling to what we call the sound of a tree falling. But without the mind there is no sound, there is just vibration, so without mind there is no ego, no divine self, no duality, there is just what IS, and not even that.
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your analogy has nothing to do with what i said.
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04-07-2011, 02:40 AM
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your analogy has nothing to do with what i said.
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If you don't understand that's fine, because to understand you need duality, its a good game don't you think ?.
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04-07-2011, 04:06 AM
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If you don't understand that's fine, because to understand you need duality, its a good game don't you think ?.
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i do understand.... i am just pointing out your analogy has nothing at all to do with what i said.....
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04-07-2011, 04:10 AM
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i do understand.... i am just pointing out your analogy has nothing at all to do with what i said.....
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so who is there to understand or not to understand what I have just said, get rid of that one and there you have what IS.
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04-07-2011, 04:17 AM
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so who is there to understand or not to understand what I have just said, get rid of that one and there you have what IS.
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lol maybe that's because what IS for you might not be what IS for someOne else. of course, it would be a difference in perspective which would indicate the existance of so called personalities. oops! oh well, must be what IS. lol
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04-07-2011, 04:31 AM
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lol maybe that's because what IS for you might not be what IS for someOne else. of course, it would be a difference in perspective which would indicate the existance of so called personalities. oops! oh well, must be what IS. lol
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No, there is no what IS, that's just a word, a label, or a pointer, there is no what Is for you, and one for me, look past of what i am saying, but then looking past is also duality, see, when we talk about it we are flooded in paradox after paradox.
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04-07-2011, 04:53 AM
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No, there is no what IS, that's just a word, a label, or a pointer, there is no what Is for you, and one for me, look past of what i am saying, but then looking past is also duality, see, when we talk about it we are flooded in paradox after paradox.
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lol then why are you still talking about it? LOL
you're cracking me up here!
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