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Old 28-03-2020, 12:36 PM
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Interesting summary. Definitely something to think about.

Think until you get dizzy from going around in circles.
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Old 28-03-2020, 12:41 PM
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The name of the game for most creatures in this life is Eat or be Eaten. We are the lucky, or perhaps unlucky, few who can spare the time and neurons to look for purpose and meaning in all of it.
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Old 28-03-2020, 12:48 PM
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To simply say that life is similar to a movie or a dream or a dance would be more agreeable with most because at times there indeed seems to be similarities and reflections of these traits but they are not seen as absolutes .

x daz x

But are there really any absolutes? Absolutes are often just sweeping generalizations.
I can say that there are absolute truths as far as my perspective can see but my sight,
and perspective, is limited. Thus I strive to grow myself.
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Old 28-03-2020, 01:09 PM
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@Starman, I've noticed you writing before about losing your sight for a time. Maybe you could explain what you could still see if you wouldn't mind? And now I'm also wondering if people that are blind from birth can "see" anything.

From my experience, yes you can see without human eyes, but as long as you are
in a human body you most likely can not see this world with defective eyes.
Nonetheless, you can still see. A person blind from birth may see with their sense
of touch, and yes, they may also see colors.

The human eye can only see the spectrum between ultraviolet and infrared,
but without human eyes you can see colors that are indescribable, celestial colors
that go beyond infrared or ultraviolet. Colors and sounds go beyond this physical
world. Some animals can see things that human eyes can not see.

The view without human eyes is clearer and much more dynamic than the vision
we have with human eyes. In my opinion sight comes from light, and the more
inner light we gather unto ourselves the greater our sight will be. Color is to light
what sound is to vibration.

We can see things, or we can see into things, insight verses surface sight, or
outer sight. To be unconscious is to be truly blind. There are blind people in this
world who can see clearer than some who have 20/20 vision.

To be consciously aware is to see. We see with our awareness, and awareness
is light. I have often said, we look with our eyes but we see with our awareness.
There are things going on in front of us all the time which we look at but do not see.
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Old 28-03-2020, 02:43 PM
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In the most part I think you will find most are inbuilt, so to speak.

And I was thinking more along the lines of a winged suit

Wingsuit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7lbDteHxQ8

Those winged suits are fantastic aren't they. Like flying bats. I'm not sure how that one guy didn't get his skin torn from his back
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Old 28-03-2020, 02:50 PM
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There is the emotional body still present and there is the intellectual processes that reflect our perception of self and other’s and of the world perceived .

There isn’t the need obviously for the physical senses but one see’s, smells, hears just the same and one can still feel the sufferings of other’s without shedding a physical tear ..


x daz x

Do they look forward to returning to the earth plane in a physical body?
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Old 28-03-2020, 02:57 PM
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Everything seems to be a game, for good or worse.
Wanting to survive is a game, with an inevitable outcome to us all. Wanting to reproduce is a game. Living with an identity is a game. Seeking spiritual understanding is a game. We are characters at the whims of whatever forces are out there, quite possibly no central authority at all and we live in a sea of chaos that appears to have some structure to it but each time we think we understand it the next moment we don't. All part of the game, I suppose.

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Old 28-03-2020, 03:04 PM
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From my experience, yes you can see without human eyes, but as long as you are
in a human body you most likely can not see this world with defective eyes.
Nonetheless, you can still see. A person blind from birth may see with their sense
of touch, and yes, they may also see colors.

The human eye can only see the spectrum between ultraviolet and infrared,
but without human eyes you can see colors that are indescribable, celestial colors
that go beyond infrared or ultraviolet. Colors and sounds go beyond this physical
world. Some animals can see things that human eyes can not see.

The view without human eyes is clearer and much more dynamic than the vision
we have with human eyes. In my opinion sight comes from light, and the more
inner light we gather unto ourselves the greater our sight will be. Color is to light
what sound is to vibration.

We can see things, or we can see into things, insight verses surface sight, or
outer sight. To be unconscious is to be truly blind. There are blind people in this
world who can see clearer than some who have 20/20 vision.

To be consciously aware is to see. We see with our awareness, and awareness
is light. I have often said, we look with our eyes but we see with our awareness.
There are things going on in front of us all the time which we look at but do not see.

Thanks for your insight!
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Old 28-03-2020, 03:05 PM
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Hi... Am still here!!!! Been preoccupied in last few days as have many family members working on "front line"... Worries all around from them!! Yes we do do it on purpose... We must all be glutens for punishment!!!! Why do we keep doing it ? Lol. But do it we do...

Hard not to worry. Best wishes for your family.
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Old 28-03-2020, 05:36 PM
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My understanding is that we (i.e. our souls) are mind-and-spirit empowered Life-flow 'creators', so we can make up (i.e. 'in'vent) and play whatever 'games' we wish to (or just keep playing the ones we were born into, if that is our 'inclination').

I interpret Jesus' statement "In my Father's house there are many mansions" to mean that there are many (kinds of) games, each with their own 'fields' (or 'courts') to choose from. Jesus was a MAJOR 'game'-maker, his 'game' being open to and joinable by anyone/everyone present. The full quote in the foregoing regard is: "In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know." (John 14:2-3)


In a certain way, I would say, My understanding is that certain kinds of dynamics pertain to the game's flow-process ... in Spades, Hearts, Diamonds and Clubs!, euphemistically speaking.


Answering these questions, from my treatise:
"Analogous to the way it takes many years of ‘schooling’ wherein initially ignorant and unskilled novices are tasked with learning and given the opportunity to master increasingly complex ‘lessons’ and thereby, upon ‘passing’ greater adeptitude-demanding ‘tests’, progress through a series of ‘grade’ levels to the point where they finally ‘graduate’ from vocational training programs and schools of knowledge, [in this 'game'] it takes numerous physical lifetimes for ‘young’ souls to become masterfully adept at deploying their ‘inner’ Love and Joy ‘program’ in relation to Life and others in it in the context of the infinite psychospiritual possibility containing ‘stream’ of sometimes mind-n-spirit sparking opportunities and sometimes mind-n-spirit daunting challenges that are encountered in the course of living in a matrixially multi-layered, complexly interwoven physiosocial [game-]system such as ours.

The alternative in relation to any particular challenge and/or opportunity, of course, being to ‘fail’ to do so, though, as you probably know if you are experienced enough, such ‘failure’ does not in and of itself preclude anyone from progressing in the above regard because one may often learn even more by reviewing and learning ‘lessons’ from one’s ‘failures’ than one’s ‘successes’. Indeed, the possibility of ‘failure’, and so ‘failures’ themselves, are crucial components of a soul’s developmental process. A string of ‘successes’ alone will not result in one’s developing the degree of mental acuity and emotional resilience required to recognize, wisely navigate, and functionally emancipate oneself from being subject to the pulls and pushes of immediate selfish-gratification affording ‘temptations’ which, besides often leading one in a ‘wrong’ (short-term-gain-long-term-cost) direction, divert precious attention and energy away from the goal of maximally actualizing one’s Love and Joy potential in relation to and with other aspects of Life’s Presence and Flow Process. As in the case of a child’s learning to stand up, walk, run, etc., experiences of ‘failure’ resulting from one’s being short-sighted, careless, uncoordinated, etc. and (so) losing one’s balance, tripping and falling, bumping into walls, etc. in relation to others actually pave the way for ‘success’ in this regard.

The short version of the full [game]-'story’ is that, with the benefit of having both (‘unsuccessful’ and ‘successful’) kinds of experiences, souls may incrementally become aware of the ins and outs of the multivarious kinds of liabilities that attend ‘petty’ selfishness and (so) in due course choose as well as ultimately manage to transcend any and all selfish-‘i’dentity based inclinations, such that they eventually become fully functionally capable of and completely devoted to optimizing and augmenting The Entity of Life’s Love and Joy Flow (beyond the scope of their ‘own’ selfish one) and from then on live in a state of ‘at oneness’ (i.e. in conjunction) with said ever‑ongoing process forever (i.e. ‘eternally’) thereafter. The alternative possibility in this ‘ultimate’ regard, of course, being that souls may completely capital ‘F’(!) Fail to do and be so. [They may be thought of as being 'losers' in such game's context.]

The latter possibility derives from the fact that, if and as a soul reacts, as all selfish-ego ensconced (hence ‘immature’ in psychospiritual terms) souls are prone to at least sometimes do, to the frustration(s) and disappointment(s) of personal wishes, hopes, and expectations by becoming even more selfish-gratification oriented (the idea that Life presents us with a series of ‘tests’ which we may either ‘pass’ or ‘fail’ pertains here), and if such all too human reactional tendency isn’t somehow ‘disarmed’ and ‘neutralized’, such that a soul persists in becoming more so, it may eventually become so mentally and emotionally ‘i’solated in the ‘bubble’ of its own ‘petty’ selfishness that whatever inclination and capacity it may have had to experience and express Love and Joy in relation to and with others shrinks and shrivels (i.e. devolves) to the point where it finally becomes completely unloving and unjoyful in relation to Life. What then ‘happens’ (since the Essence of Life is Love and Joy and that is what our Entity is actually the living expression of) is that such soul just ‘blinks out’ and ‘vanishes’ as a psychospiritual pattern (or ‘entity’) from the ‘field’ of Life and therefore completely ‘loses’ the possibility of ever incarnating again as a unit. There is no Love and Joy ‘kernel’ left which can then possibly (re)incarnate and thereby learn and ‘grow’ to the point where it nodally integrates with and thereafter ‘eternally’ lives on as a full-fledged ‘member’ of the ‘Body’ of Life.
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One can 'cheat' in relation to others, but one can't 'cheat' in terms of the final 'score' one garners. "Whatsoever a wo/man soweth, that shall s/he also reap." yada-yada.



No. Everyone can play at the same time.


I must appreciate your understanding and explaining capabilities .Life as a game has base in Brahma Sutras (Lokavattu Leela Kaivalyam ) in Hinduism. And you have explained it beautifully .

Like all games there will be high uncertainties and lots of luck factor in life too giving ample scope and arena ( free wiil ) for meaningful enjoyable play.
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