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Old 15-06-2018, 05:32 PM
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Thank you , even though it seems like you are trolling .
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Old 15-06-2018, 06:19 PM
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Thank you , even though it seems like you are trolling .



I have tried to help you, I posted a video, I have answered your questions many time's, spent my time without a thank you and you accuse me of trolling, thank you. I have practised Qigong, Tai Chi, Kung Fu Fan and Tai Chi Sword for 20+ years and taught Qigong for 8 years, no WD I am not trolling. You are very rude and ungrateful.
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Old 15-06-2018, 10:30 PM
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getting more chi

Water drop, it all depends on what you mean by chi, different sources give different definitions and categorisations. The most common translation is "energy" and even in Western physics there are innumerable forms of energy. One translation that has been suggested with reference to acupuncture is that chi is "essence of air" which could be thought of as meaning "oxygen" so in this case simply breathing more would give you more chi. When it comes to "electrical" and "magnetic" forms of chi things get more complicated, one can even push Western physics to its limits and talk about so called "dark energy" but then one is in the realms of pure speculation as far as analogies go. Concentrating on chi as "oxygen" is a good place to start as practice can certainly make the oxygen flow in the body more efficient and this flow interacts with the nervous system which can also be fine tuned by practice. Different foods can make oxygen flow more efficient too. It sounds so reductionist, but it is a mistake to think T'ai Ji isn't scientific just because it has a different geographical heritage. If you prefer a more poetic word you could think of chi as simply "breath" or as I said earlier on "essence of air". As a final note, according to Einstein, even "matter" is energy, so in that sense almost anything could be considered chi. As you are starting at the beginning think of chi simply as "breath" and you won't go far wrong. It might seem strange to think of concentrating "breath" in the dan tien instead of the lungs, but oxygen does flow there and by focusing one's attention one can become aware of the interaction between the nerves of the dan tien and the oxygen that has been breathed in and strengthen that connection. As I said, matter is energy, and T'ai Ji is a physical art, even Western physics becomes mystical when you try to say what directs energy movement and interactions. Thinking of it in Western physical terms does not detract from the practice if it helps. However, as one of my previous posts might serve as a warning, being unbalanced with regards to head analysis and sensitivity to chi with the rest of the body, could send you crazy. Thank you.
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Old 16-06-2018, 04:33 AM
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some times to many questions lead to confusion


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Old 16-06-2018, 11:02 AM
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yeah it can but im basically asking the same thing from the start

about the instructor saying to push chi back to the universe and that we dont gather chi at all just take and give same amount and it clashes with other stuff just now watching a youtube video in minute 3-4 of the video they talk about taking chi from food and breath (just an example i heared about gathering chi from many different sources)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOyGd6TH3K0

in my mind i thought this probably have some replies for example replies like

1 . we dont really gather more chi we just learn to move it more in the body increasing the ability to exchange chi we have with chi in the universe around us

2 . we gather chi from the enviorment from food from breath through qigong exercises - the more ch the better

3 . there isnt really chi its just a way to help poeple feel their body more and advance in their spiritual quest

etc

and sky you wrote some rude stuff - but i dont want to talk to you and you dont want to talk to me so just ignore me and i will ignore you

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