CAN ANYONE CALCULATE WHEN DID the ACCELERATING EXPANSION of the UNIVERSE BEGIN ?

OPVerma · #1 05-08-2018, 08:50 AM

ADAM RIESS discovered that the expansion of the universe has increased by 15% since the universe was half its age about 7 billion years ago. This discovery implies that at some point of time in pst the expansion must have began from 0% position. I have calculated this starting point to be about 7 trillion years ago. I want to cross check my calculation. Obviously this figure offsets all BIG BANG Theory and calculations.

Gem · #2 05-08-2018, 11:02 AM

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ADAM RIESS discovered that the expansion of the universe has increased by 15% since the universe was half its age about 7 billion years ago. This discovery implies that at some point of time in pst the expansion must have began from 0% position. I have calculated this starting point to be about 7 trillion years ago. I want to cross check my calculation. Obviously this figure offsets all BIG BANG Theory and calculations.

Reiss' calculations are based on the measured rate of expansion of the universe. What rationale do you base your calculations on?

OPVerma · #3 09-08-2018, 10:14 AM

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Reiss' calculations are based on the measured rate of expansion of the universe. What rationale do you base your calculations on?

It means you can calculate. I have taken the rate of the expansion of the universe 20 km /sec / mlyr. As you know the expansion rate is controversial varying between 15 -30.

Gem · #4 09-08-2018, 10:55 AM

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It means you can calculate. I have taken the rate of the expansion of the universe 20 km /sec / mlyr. As you know the expansion rate is controversial varying between 15 -30.

I'm pretty sure the currently accepted rate of expansion is somewhere around 70km per second per megaparsec (a megaparsec is 3.26 million light years). Is that the same rate you called 20/sec/mlyr?

OPVerma · #5 09-08-2018, 05:26 PM

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I'm pretty sure the currently accepted rate of expansion is somewhere around 70km per second per megaparsec (a megaparsec is 3.26 million light years). Is that the same rate you called 20/sec/mlyr?

Expansion rate of 20km / sec / mlyrs translates into 65.2km per second per megaparsec. I just checked in Google the latest figure is 67 km.

Gem · #6 09-08-2018, 10:11 PM

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Expansion rate of 20km / sec / mlyrs translates into 65.2km per second per megaparsec. I just checked in Google the latest figure is 67 km.

... so how come your calculation estimates the universe is 7 billion years old and astronomers estimate 13.4 million using roughly the same expansion rate?

OPVerma · #7 11-08-2018, 10:37 AM

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Rah nam · #8 28-08-2018, 12:38 PM

Sure this verse expands all the time.
Galaxies are created constantly.

To measure an expansion rate seams to be fool
hearted. How do we measure the expansion of consciousness?
After all, a verse expands as consciousness expands.

We could look back and determine the age of this verse according to the present rotation of the earth around the sun, and even that is not a constant. Using the present rotation we would come to just under ten billion rotations since the first release of consciousness that started this verse.

If we used the average rate of expansion, we could say this verse will continue to expand for an other half a billion of years before the retraction rate will be greater. As the retraction rate speeds up, we could say in less than a billion years this verse will not exist any longer, at least not in the form it is now.

Gem · #9 28-08-2018, 01:10 PM

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Sure this verse expands all the time.
Galaxies are created constantly.

A a verse is a stanza in a song or poem so your use of it in this context is highly ambiguous.

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To measure an expansion rate seams to be fool
hearted. How do we measure the expansion of consciousness?
After all, a verse expands as consciousness expands.

Well, we know the speed of light and what it would be like to travel at that speed (be everywhere at once).

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We could look back and determine the age of this verse according to the present rotation of the earth around the sun, and even that is not a constant. Using the present rotation we would come to just under ten billion rotations since the first release of consciousness that started this verse.

Are you talking about the solar system?

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If we used the average rate of expansion, we could say this verse will continue to expand for an other half a billion of years before the retraction rate will be greater. As the retraction rate speeds up, we could say in less than a billion years this verse will not exist any longer, at least not in the form it is now.

There is nothing called a 'verse'.

Rah nam · #10 28-08-2018, 11:26 PM

There is nothing called a 'verse'.

You might call it uni-verse but there is nothing uni about this verse.
uni comes from unus = one.

I was given to understand there are as many verses as there are cells in my body. Yes, they are all one in fact but we don't talk about one single verse.

and by the way, the known laws of our physics will change very soon