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14-11-2018, 07:36 PM
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Can Jesus be God if he is not all knowing?
Can Jesus be God if he is not all knowing?
For the Trinity concept to work, Jesus as well as the Father and Holy Ghost would all have to be all knowing and equal in all ways.
A number of times Jesus says he does not know what the Father knows. That and if Jesus was God, who did he pray to as a God does not pray to himself.
For those two reasons and more, especially his poor moral tenets, Jesus cannot be God. I see his worst moral tenets as being his no divorce policy and substitutionary punishment policy. This link speaks to other moral deficiencies.
I wanted to insert a link her but am too new to the board. please google ---
Jesus: Madman or Something Worse?
Thoughts?
Regards
DL
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14-11-2018, 11:52 PM
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Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
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thoughts are, you are not a Christian!
I can understand questioning over the trinity and other concepts but to then flame Jesus as if you know him, is weak tea and hardly worthy of a response
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15-11-2018, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by davidmartin
thoughts are, you are not a Christian!
I can understand questioning over the trinity and other concepts but to then flame Jesus as if you know him, is weak tea and hardly worthy of a response
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Flame?
Only if the author of that link is correct.
Otherwise, if wrong, Christians should be happy to show the wrongness.
Especially in the two areas I mentioned.
You peg me correctly though. I am no longer a Catholic. I am a Gnostic Christian. Some say the only good Christians.
Did you have a reply to the question?
Regards
DL
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15-11-2018, 06:11 AM
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Master
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 15,629
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop
Flame?
Only if the author of that link is correct.
Otherwise, if wrong, Christians should be happy to show the wrongness.
Especially in the two areas I mentioned.
You peg me correctly though. I am no longer a Catholic. I am a Gnostic Christian. Some say the only good Christians.
Did you have a reply to the question?
Regards
DL
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" Some say the only good Christians."
Is that the ego choosing what is or isn't a good Christian
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15-11-2018, 06:14 AM
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Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davidmartin
thoughts are, you are not a Christian!
I can understand questioning over the trinity and other concepts but to then flame Jesus as if you know him, is weak tea and hardly worthy of a response
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" thoughts are, you are not a Christian!"
Why David, what is a Christian?
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15-11-2018, 08:01 AM
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Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sky123
" thoughts are, you are not a Christian!"
Why David, what is a Christian?
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: is weak tea and hardly worthy of a response :
This made me laugh, I haven't heard this before, can I change it
is weak tea and hardly worthy of drinking..
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15-11-2018, 01:07 PM
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I may or may not think Jesus is part of the Trinity..that debate will go on
for a long time...but I would not be interested in any link
"Madman or something worse?"
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.*I'll text in Navy Blue when I'm speaking as a Mod. :)
Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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15-11-2018, 01:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sky123
" Some say the only good Christians."
Is that the ego choosing what is or isn't a good Christian
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Yes. What else could it be?
Regards
DL
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15-11-2018, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
I may or may not think Jesus is part of the Trinity..that debate will go on
for a long time...but I would not be interested in any link
"Madman or something worse?"
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Why not?
Do you never test your beliefs?
Gen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;
1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.
Do you prefer to let others do your testing for you?
Regards
DL
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15-11-2018, 01:31 PM
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Pathfinder
Join Date: Jun 2017
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I like gnosticism and I know a bit about it's spirituality but as a gnostic you should know that Jesus is an important figure, in fact a central figure as well as in gnosticism although this spiritual movement also accepts other spiritual way showers.
So what kind of gnostic you are if you say bad things about Jesus attacking his morals?
As for the Trinity thing, I agree with you. Jesus and God cannot be equal no matter how much emphasis Christians put on Jesus.
I usually don't pray to Jesus, only to God. And sometimes I call to the archangels.
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