I want to die.

[Aquamarine]

Sorry if I'm asking something thats been asked-I tried reading all of whats been written but its a bit much, why not become a female in this life?

I understand how profoundly important it is, there are operations. Would it be something to consider?

[H:O:R:A:C:E]

Originally Posted by Des39

I like what you said.
But still we are here in a physical world on Earth now with other people. We live in society. And our interactions with people are a big part of our lives. And when a soul desires for a female experience in society and most of people treat that soul as a male because of its male body, it is not exactly the experience that soul wanted. A soul in a body left on an uninhabited island would have no problem with gender identity even if it was in the body of opposite gender to its feelings. It would be like I am a human and others are cats or dogs. But the point here is that we live among people and that desire of being a male/female is very strongly connected to societal experience.

i like what you've said.
imagine that i'm a "left-hander". the things i do are as a left-hander. then,
at some point, i get nerve damage and can't use my left hand very well
anymore... i need to use the right. suddenly, people start treating me as
a "right-hander", even though i know myself to be a lefty... just unable to
function that way presently. what i'm saying is that what other people
think or expect of me has nothing to do with my self defined identity.
i suppose the desire to be a female is different than the desire to
be treated as a female. the first is up to the individual (in my argument),
the second is up to 'the others' to determine. i just don't see how it's
possible to require that free-will beings act/behave in accordance to my
desires. i'd like for people to genuinely care for themselves, each other,
and the world -- but i can't force them to do so.

[H:O:R:A:C:E]

Originally Posted by TheDivineOne

A biological female, not a transwoman.

you'll need to gain control of your biology.
you'll need to access your DNA coding.
there's a single gene difference between male and female,
according to scientific research, as i understand it.
when "the shift of consciousness" occurs, enlightened beings
will be able to purposefully alter their physical forms. in the
short term, humans will grow into 'giants', and have mastery
over their health (no diseases).

[Des39]

Originally Posted by H:O:R:A:C:E

i like what you've said.
imagine that i'm a "left-hander". the things i do are as a left-hander. then,
at some point, i get nerve damage and can't use my left hand very well
anymore... i need to use the right. suddenly, people start treating me as
a "right-hander", even though i know myself to be a lefty... just unable to
function that way presently. what i'm saying is that what other people
think or expect of me has nothing to do with my self defined identity.
i suppose the desire to be a female is different than the desire to
be treated as a female. the first is up to the individual (in my argument),
the second is up to 'the others' to determine. i just don't see how it's
possible to require than free-will beings act/behave in accordance to my
desires. i'd like for people to genuinely care for themselves, each other,
and the world -- but i can't force them to do so.

I understand and completely agree. You cannot control other people's attitudes. The solution here is in your next post --- one has to learn how to control matter. Then they will be able to create body corresponding to their feelings.

[H:O:R:A:C:E]

Originally Posted by Des39

I understand and completely agree. You cannot control other people's attitudes. The solution here is in your next post --- one has to learn how to control matter. Then they will be able to create body corresponding to their feelings.

There is No Spoon, How to Manipulate Reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzWRF2Ch5ws

*i've edited my earlier post, replacing "than" with "that"...
but you've memorialized my spelling error in your post, lol.

[Des39]

Originally Posted by iJenna

If reincarnation was real, you and everyone else would remember our past lives.

There is no reason for this assumption to be true. Moreover, we all have lived for the first months/years of our lives even in this very incarnation, but rarely someone remembers anything of that time.

Originally Posted by iJenna

As the evidence shows since the dawn of this planet, this is the ONLY life you have.

What evidence?

Originally Posted by iJenna

We seem to be here just to be, with no reason.

We may just not know that reason yet.

Originally Posted by iJenna

Or we'd all know for a scientific fact what that reason is.

Science does not know everything. Moreover, there is no such thing like 'scientific fact'.

Originally Posted by iJenna

If someone here claims reincarnation is real, ask them for the evidence then to prove it! And when they don't provide that evidence because there is none, then use your brain to think about that, logically. It likely means then it's not real.

Maybe you can try this: Use your logic to see that you cannot use your logic to prove anything. Science cannot prove anything. Maybe it can disprove some theories, but it cannot prove them. Science cannot prove anything at all! You may try to think about it logically.

Originally Posted by iJenna

It's the only life you have.

You cannot prove it.

[H:O:R:A:C:E]

i'd love to logically prove some things for you iJenna.
many 'spiritual' ideas seem provable to me.
i fundamentally agree with you that: "We seem to be here just to be,
with no reason." i see people as being enabled to choose the purposes
they wish to fulfill, the causes they wish to advance, and the directions
they take in moving about through life. those things aren't imposed
upon us from some higher order intelligence, as i understand.

here's an example of my logic: all things are true.
truth is the touchstone for being; without something being (directly)
connected to truth, it just does not exist. "false things" have no basis
in fact; they are mere fantasy, without substance or meaning.
for a thing to have actual existence, it must have the quality of truth
to it. all things are true, elsewise they are not things at all.

another proof exists for how life is eternal.
scientifically, life exists in the experiencing of it. there must be some
recognition of something, in some measure, for "life" to have a
dictionary meaning that's meaningful. there must exist some transfer
of energy across a medium of some kind for there to be "life". this
process is 'experienced', even if not to the conscious mind. i submit
that ALL experiences of 'death', witnessed by any being anyplace,
are always to some outside agent, and never to "self". it's just not
possible to experience the state of non-experiencing -- not logically.
since we ARE living, experiencing beings, we shall always retain
those qualities... it's logically impossible to experience otherwise.
all first-hand experiences are of life; eternally. ask anyone.

[iJenna]

This forum won't allow me to quote your reply to me TheDivineOne.

So here is my response:

Cognitive Dissonance. Hence, your unnecessary nastiness towards me.

What's the point then of this thread you started titled "I want to die"? What's your goal here? Because after each person that has shared their opinions of help to you, all you do in return is continue to whine that you want to be a woman over and over??? It's going nowhere.

You can scream nastiness at me all you want. It's not going to ever change the fact that there continues to be no solid, scientific evidence for any afterlife, spirit inside us, or reincarnation.

Believe what you want. Good luck with that.

[TheDivineOne]

Originally Posted by iJenna

This forum won't allow me to quote your reply to me TheDivineOne.

So here is my response:

Cognitive Dissonance. Hence, your unnecessary nastiness towards me.

What's the point then of this thread you started titled "I want to die"? What's your goal here? Because after each person that has shared their opinions of help to you, all you do in return is continue to whine that you want to be a woman over and over??? It's going nowhere.

You can scream nastiness at me all you want. It's not going to ever change the fact that there continues to be no solid, scientific evidence for any afterlife, spirit inside us, or reincarnation.

Believe what you want. Good luck with that.

Sometimes it feels somewhat better to talk to people about what i'm going through if the going gets tough, and that's what i've been doing here. No one else had a problem with it but you.

All you've done was assert your belief about reincarnation not existing because of lack of scientific of logical explanation, which was completely crass and illogical, and so my "nastiness" toward you, i feel, was justified.

If you don't like this thread, no one is forcing you to post here or to view it, and so you don't have to do either.

Originally Posted by Aquamarine

Sorry if I'm asking something thats been asked-I tried reading all of whats been written but its a bit much, why not become a female in this life?

I understand how profoundly important it is, there are operations. Would it be something to consider?

It's something i've been considering for years, which is why i've started transitioning long ago.

Originally Posted by H:O:R:A:C:E

i suppose the desire to be a female is different than the desire to
be treated as a female. the first is up to the individual (in my argument),
the second is up to 'the others' to determine. i just don't see how it's
possible to require that free-will beings act/behave in accordance to my
desires. i'd like for people to genuinely care for themselves, each other,
and the world -- but i can't force them to do so.

For me both are equally important to me.

Originally Posted by H:O:R:A:C:E

you'll need to gain control of your biology.
you'll need to access your DNA coding.
there's a single gene difference between male and female,
according to scientific research, as i understand it.
when "the shift of consciousness" occurs, enlightened beings
will be able to purposefully alter their physical forms. in the
short term, humans will grow into 'giants', and have mastery
over their health (no diseases).

I'm not in the medical field at all and have no interest in doing all the extensive work it'd take to get there. I guess I'll just wait until my next life and finish transitioning while i'm here in this life waiting for that one.

[In Flux]

Originally Posted by iJenna

This forum won't allow me to quote your reply to me TheDivineOne.

So here is my response:

Cognitive Dissonance. Hence, your unnecessary nastiness towards me.

What's the point then of this thread you started titled "I want to die"? What's your goal here? Because after each person that has shared their opinions of help to you, all you do in return is continue to whine that you want to be a woman over and over??? It's going nowhere.

You can scream nastiness at me all you want. It's not going to ever change the fact that there continues to be no solid, scientific evidence for any afterlife, spirit inside us, or reincarnation.

Believe what you want. Good luck with that.

Ian Stevenson published thorough scientific research on cases which suggest that reincarnation is real:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty...n d_criticism

Do you know this publication? Does it meet your standards for counting as scientific evidence?