The Mystery of our Sun

[skygazer]

triple yikes, Shekinah, those "proven scientific facts" that SETI and NASA have been so forthcoming about are not being considered here...

[Explorer21]

In his book OTHER TONGUES--OTHER FLESH, George Hunt Williamson writes about the Sun:

"Scientists today state that the Sun is a gigantic atomic furnace radiating a tremendous amount of heat to the satellite planets each second. The temperature at its surface is said to be thousands of degrees and the internal temperature is supposedly in the millions of degrees. However, it is unexplainable how super-heated gases can act magnetically. (Explorer21---scientists also say that the Sun has a powerful magnetic field). For, it is an elementary fact of physics that A SUBSTANCE LOSES ITS MAGNETISM WHEN HEATED! Since astronomers have definitely recorded magnetic effects upon the Sun, we have a direct conflict between the Sun's true nature and the suggested temperature. This conflict only indicates that the Sun is NOT the super-heated mass of gases that scientists think it is, but rather, a cool body as Herschel (Explorer21---famous astronomer) said it was.

There is much evidence to prove that the Sun is, indeed, a cool body......Astronomers base their calculations (of the Sun's temperature) on these two assumptions: First, they assume the Sun is a perfect radiating body; second, and most important, they assume that the Sun is radiating HEAT. This is because they believe that heat on Earth, as well as heat on other planetary bodies, comes directly from the Sun. People feel the heat when they stand in sunlight, so they say the Sun must be a burning mass radiating that heat. That is like saying a radio transmitter radiates sound waves because when we turn on our radios, we hear sound. But we know that such a transmitter radiates radio waves, and that these waves are turned into sound inside the radio!

In 1543, a great comet came closer to the Sun than any previous comet had, and this was repeated by another comet in 1882. They actually entered the Sun's corona which supposedly has a temperature of 1,000,000 degrees absolute. These comets travelled over 1,000,000 kilometres through this blazing corona and EMERGED UNSCATHED and with no change in velocity or direction. If the Sun is radiating heat, why weren't these comets instantly disintegrated upon entering a tremendous heat of 1,000,000 absolute degrees? Surely nothing could survive such treatment!"

[skygazer]

good points, Explorer21.

"There is much evidence to prove that the Sun is, indeed, a cool body......Astronomers base their calculations (of the Sun's temperature) on these two assumptions: First, they assume the Sun is a perfect radiating body; second, and most important, they assume that the Sun is radiating HEAT. This is because they believe that heat on Earth, as well as heat on other planetary bodies, comes directly from the Sun. People feel the heat when they stand in sunlight, so they say the Sun must be a burning mass radiating that heat. That is like saying a radio transmitter radiates sound waves because when we turn on our radios, we hear sound. But we know that such a transmitter radiates radio waves, and that these waves are turned into sound inside the radio!"
love this analogy of the radio waves and sound.

there are videos of what can only be described as intelligent craft going in and out of the sun on youtube by amateur sky observers, and there are people who have managed to remote view the sun who said there are beings on it.
Audacious notion, but that is the type of thinking that is going to bring humanity out of the box that the current scientific community continues to demand we inhabit.

[Explorer21]

Skygazer, many thanks!

[Malachite]

This also explains the many accounts of people who astral travel and visit the sun's proximity. Great thread :)

[CrystalKitty777]

I find it rather ridiculous that some scientists think that there can only be life on other planets if said planets are Earth-like in some way. Can't they see that the planets, stars, suns, moons, galaxies--everything in the Universe is alive and full of love?

[Chrysalis]

I watched one documentary that explained the sun is cool and it radiates radiation. It is when the radiation enters the atmosphere where it's turned into energy we experience as heat. Also, space temperature is cold and the higher up one goes into the atmosphere, the colder it gets.

It's as if the sun uses cold fusion for the nuclear reactions within it.

A few months later I saw another documentary about the sun. The scientists on that show disagreed with the scientists from the previous documentary I saw. These scientists still claimed that the sun is a hot body.

So now there are two groups of scientists claiming different conclusions about the sun's temperature. If both camps practice true science then there wouldn't be such a division.

Which one is right? I believe the sun is cold fusion which explains how the magnetic field is maintained and that space is cold. Also explains how the comets went through the sun's corona and came out unscathed.

[ObServant]

Originally Posted by lifensoul

But thats also explained by the climate change theory, that the climate change generally has to do with suns heat melting ice caps due to human carbon footprint depleting the ozone layer, which simply got to be wrong...

It is very wrong.

Climate change is caused by greenhouse gasses such as CO2 and CH4 trapping the Sun's heat (infra red radiation) in our atmosphere.

The ozone layer protects us from ultra violet radiation (which is cold) also emitted by the Sun and a cause of skin cancer.

[danse macabre]

I've often wondered...if space is a vacuum, then how could the sun be "hot"?

What mechanism is there in the vacuum of space to actually conduct heat? We feel heat on the planet (as the OP stated) due to the solar rays creating friction with our atmosphere. But how is heat transferred/conducted in outer space?

Also, that comment about the sun not being as bright in space kind of makes sense, also. I can't prove this as I've never been to space, but if you think about light diffusion in photography, for example...or even a light bulb...

The source of light would be very intense, like a spotlight. Many light bulbs are frosted and photography light boxes have a diffuser (a thin white sheet) to spread the light and not make it as intense.

I could again see our atmosphere having the same effect. After all, the sun certainly gets diffused the deeper you go underwater. Why should the atmosphere be any different?

[ObServant]

Originally Posted by danse macabre

I've often wondered...if space is a vacuum, then how could the sun be "hot"?

What mechanism is there in the vacuum of space to actually conduct heat?

The Sun's heat travels via radiation rather than conduction. Simple KS3 Physics.

A little education goes a long way.