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Old 17-06-2019, 03:56 PM
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Emotions are the only way we can love, hate, have pride, joy, disgust, etc.

Based upon my personal experience, I've concluded that emotions are definitely how we love, have pride, joy, etc. Our way of thinking and believing cannot give us the experience of love, pride, etc., as long as said thoughts and beliefs don't make us feel emotions. Positive (happy/pleasant) emotions are the only way we can experience moments, things, situations, and life itself as good, beautiful, awesome, magnificent, and worth living for. In other words, positive emotions are the only way things can be good, beautiful, and worthwhile to us.

That means positive emotions are the only things that make life good, beautiful, and worth living. Negative (unpleasant/unhappy) emotions allow us to experience moments, things, situations, and life itself as bad, horrible, tragic, horrific, disgusting, etc. So, we need to pursue the positive emotions, and we should avoid the negative emotions, since they can only make our lives bad, horrible, tragic, etc. We should also avoid apathy (no emotions), since apathy can only render us in a state of mind where nothing has any value, worth, beauty, greatness, horror, tragedy, etc. to us.

Unfortunately, positive emotions are very fleeting things, since there are many factors that can take them away from us, whether it be brain damage, certain types of mental illnesses (such as clinical depression), stress, worry, etc. That means life is a very unfortunate place, and I don't understand why souls aren't in heaven, where positive emotions would be everlasting. Positive emotions are the soul's divine state, since they're how we experience love, joy, and beauty. They're also the only way things and situations can be valuable, precious, and worthwhile to us.

Given this, it makes no sense to me why souls are here on Earth to undergo forms of suffering that only take our positive emotions away from us. Lastly, people can tell me all they want that positive emotions are nothing more than trivial feelings of little to no significance, and that they don't make life beautiful or worth living. But, again, based upon my personal experience, I think these people are wrong, and they're in denial of the fact that we need positive emotions, since they're the soul's divine state.

As a matter of fact, they're the only divine state for our souls, since there can be no other experience, besides positive emotions, that can allow us to love, have pride, joy, see beauty and worth in life, etc. Likewise, negative emotions are the only corrupt/unholy state for our souls, since there's no other experience that can allow us to hate, have disgust towards other human beings, be miserable, etc. Apathy can only render our souls as empty vessels, since there'd be no divine, or unholy state of being, our souls would be experiencing.

In conclusion, positive emotions are the only we we can experience a positive perspective on life, since they're the only things that can give us a positive outlook. Negative emotions are the only way we can experience a negative outlook/perspective, and apathy can only render us with neither a positive nor negative perspective, since apathy is a state of mind where we can't care about anyone or anything. I think many people are in denial when it comes to emotions, since they dismiss them as trivial feelings of little to no significance, when they're not.

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Old 17-06-2019, 04:10 PM
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Negative (unpleasant/unhappy) emotions allow us to experience moments, things, and situations as bad, horrible, tragic, horrific, disgusting, etc.

I definitely don't experience my so-called 'negative' emotions as making my life bad, horrible, or tragic just because they allow me to experience moments, things, situations as bad, horrible, etc. No one's taking my negative emotions from me. They are a great truth teller and they are just as valuable to me as my 'positive' ones. If I put my hand down on a hot burner, you better believe I'm going to feel pain. If I don't, I'm not going to know to pull my hand away. Negative emotions/pain are just as divine as positive emotions.

If you don't want to experience them fine, but you can't take away other people's right to find out what it feels like to be blind. Or whatever.

If you were etherically dead, and placed into the 3D setting, and almost all you had were negative emotions, they would be your life saver.

So what you've written may be how you process it but that doesn't mean everybody else does. You'd be taking away half of someone's, many people's lives if your analysis was the norm. Their right to grow and evolve and have a journey. Bosh...

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Positive (happy/pleasant) emotions are the only way we can experience moments, things, situations, and life itself as good, beautiful, awesome, magnificent, and worth living for.

Also untrue. There's a beauty and a humility in decay. In the willingness to break down.

It's part of the cycle of erosion and renewal, which is exactly what nature and the seasons are based on.
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Old 17-06-2019, 04:21 PM
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I definitely don't experience my so-called 'negative' emotions as making my life bad, horrible, or tragic just because they allow me to experience moments, things, situations as bad, horrible, etc. No one's taking my negative emotions from me. They are a great truth teller and they are just as valuable to me as my 'positive' ones. If I put my hand down on a hot burner, you better believe I'm going to feel pain. If I don't, I'm not going to know to pull my hand away. Negative emotions/pain are just as divine as positive emotions.

If you don't want to experience them fine, but you can't take away other people's right to find out what it feels like to be blind.

If you were etherically dead, and placed into the 3D setting, and almost all you had were negative emotions, they would be your life saver.



Also untrue. There's a beauty and a humility in decay. In the willingness to break down.

It's part of the cycle of erosion and renewal, which is exactly what nature and the seasons are based on.

Well, I'd need a new personal experience, besides my positive emotions, that brings my life beauty, greatness, and worth. So far, I've never had such an experience. Positive emotions are the only way I could love my hobbies, and my family. So, a feeling of love (a positive emotion) is all I got to love anyone or anything. Positive emotions are also feelings of beauty, magnificence, and worth, and they've been the only things that have always made my life, and hobbies, beautiful, magnificent, and worth living for.
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Old 17-06-2019, 04:23 PM
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Well, I'd need a new personal experience, besides my positive emotions, that brings my life beauty, greatness, and worth. So far, I've never had such an experience. Positive emotions are the only way I could love my hobbies, and my family. So, a feeling of love (a positive emotion) is all I got to love anyone or anything. Positive emotions are also feelings of beauty, magnificence, and worth, and they've been the only things that have always made my life, and hobbies, beautiful, magnificent, and worth living for.

Then I think that's what you should focus on, until that experience comes. If and when you are ready for it.
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Old 17-06-2019, 04:24 PM
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Also, I didn't say negative emotions allow us to experience life as bad or horrible, simply because they allow us to experience moments, things, and situations as bad or horrible. I'm saying that negative emotions allow us to experience EVERYTHING as bad or horrible. Even life itself.

This is true, they absolutely can. There is a space to focus on the good things only, I agree. As long as I have access to both when necessary, I guess is what I'm saying.
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Old 17-06-2019, 04:26 PM
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Then I think that's what you should focus on, until that experience comes. If and when you are ready for it.

Thank you. I'm not sure if my hedonistic philosophy can ever change though. My positive emotions might always, and forever be, the only things that can make my life and hobbies good, beautiful, and worth living for.
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Old 17-06-2019, 07:57 PM
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Evolvement from human condition implies learning to master your dual emotions. Until you do that you'll inevitably succumb to fear, and that won't allow you to be stable onto a fast thought-responsive plane, as non-physical planes are.
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Old 17-06-2019, 11:04 PM
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Based upon my personal experience, I've concluded that emotions are definitely how we love, have pride, joy, etc. Our way of thinking and believing cannot give us the experience of love, pride, etc., as long as said thoughts and beliefs don't make us feel emotions. Positive (happy/pleasant) emotions are the only way we can experience moments, things, situations, and life itself as good, beautiful, awesome, magnificent, and worth living for. In other words, positive emotions are the only way things can be good, beautiful, and worthwhile to us.

That means positive emotions are the only things that make life good, beautiful, and worth living. Negative (unpleasant/unhappy) emotions allow us to experience moments, things, situations, and life itself as bad, horrible, tragic, horrific, disgusting, etc. So, we need to pursue the positive emotions, and we should avoid the negative emotions, since they can only make our lives bad, horrible, tragic, etc. We should also avoid apathy (no emotions), since apathy can only render us in a state of mind where nothing has any value, worth, beauty, greatness, horror, tragedy, etc. to us.

Unfortunately, positive emotions are very fleeting things, since there are many factors that can take them away from us, whether it be brain damage, certain types of mental illnesses (such as clinical depression), stress, worry, etc. That means life is a very unfortunate place, and I don't understand why souls aren't in heaven, where positive emotions would be everlasting. Positive emotions are the soul's divine state, since they're how we experience love, joy, and beauty. They're also the only way things and situations can be valuable, precious, and worthwhile to us.

Given this, it makes no sense to me why souls are here on Earth to undergo forms of suffering that only take our positive emotions away from us. Lastly, people can tell me all they want that positive emotions are nothing more than trivial feelings of little to no significance, and that they don't make life beautiful or worth living. But, again, based upon my personal experience, I think these people are wrong, and they're in denial of the fact that we need positive emotions, since they're the soul's divine state.

As a matter of fact, they're the only divine state for our souls, since there can be no other experience, besides positive emotions, that can allow us to love, have pride, joy, see beauty and worth in life, etc. Likewise, negative emotions are the only corrupt/unholy state for our souls, since there's no other experience that can allow us to hate, have disgust towards other human beings, be miserable, etc. Apathy can only render our souls as empty vessels, since there'd be no divine, or unholy state of being, our souls would be experiencing.

In conclusion, positive emotions are the only we we can experience a positive perspective on life, since they're the only things that can give us a positive outlook. Negative emotions are the only way we can experience a negative outlook/perspective, and apathy can only render us with neither a positive nor negative perspective, since apathy is a state of mind where we can't care about anyone or anything. I think many people are in denial when it comes to emotions, since they dismiss them as trivial feelings of little to no significance, when they're not.

We feel for reason. We feel for no reason. Clarity of being allows us to reside in equanimity from within. In this way feelings are clear, unattached. The cause then is a natural arising in its true state. It’s spontaneous and much like the free spirited nature that we see in children unconditioned by others. Emotions can contain us much like the mind. Intellectual understanding without integrated feeling mode is like wading in the ocean bobbing up and down, trying to keep your head above water. Integrated being and your able to dive deep, float on the surface and take in the whole view.

We experience a full range of emotion to understand choice in feeling. We let go of emotion contained by the mind to understand clarity in feeling. Clarity in feeling we see we are not emotions or the mind, but we can use the fullness of our being in this way to be more deeply connected to ourselves, live more connected to life around us, without projecting our conditioned state into the world. At certain points I had to allow more joy and love to feel how that felt. To see it is possible to turn emotions into positive markers, that I was worthy of love.

One thing I have learned is that feeling without labels on what your feeling allows you to just let feeling mode express itself. Stay present with it. In this way it’s clear feeling without ideas, why and what it is. It’s a way to transform your feeling mode into clarity. There are points also on the journey where you have choice in which path in feeling you go down. Do I want to move into thevortex of love and joy or stay in the old one of fear and sadness. If your life has been overall fearful and muserable one has to practice in feeling what love and joy feel like.

In the end my true self just feels connected now.

It’s a balanced state of “justbeing” ..in finding that state, ones potential then becomes a way to deepen presence. Even so it’s important to open to the full range of emotions to understand ourselves more complete.
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Very nice, Matt.

This is for you:
Paramahansa's student's asked him, "When will we know we are
getting closer to God?''
Without hesitation he said, "When you feel."



Btw, wonderful feelings do not have to be fleeting...not at all.
Practice. Make them your priority.
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