Become Born Again; Born of the Spirit

[Aknaton]

John 3:1-6 KJV
There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

The above Holy Scripture shows the need for an individual to be born again. As a fallen human, ones spirit is lifeless without the Love/Light of the Creator in them, it being lost during Adams futile decision.

Ones lifeless Soul dwells in darkness and is exposed to duality and the pain of separation. In the absence of Love; the uniting principle, interactions with other Souls cause Karma/Sin/Debt which needs to be paid off and as a result, a Soul is trapped within the world of forms. That which is born of the flesh is the flesh, and an endless cycle of Karma/Sin/Debt repayment. And the Soul acquires a coat of Sin/Karma, and this is referred to in the Bible as the "oldman".

Now, the Logos incarnated out of love to set the captives free from sin and free them back into the Eternal Realms of Love & Light, which is heaven. This is why this sect was called The Way; he is the way out of being trapped in this physical reality. All that are born of the flesh are subject to karma/sin and none can save themselves; it will only take the Creator who is free and beyond karmic chains to free the trapped Souls.

He paid with His own pure blood for all debts and put them upon Himself and humans had a chance to be redeemed. This blood payment made by Jesus Christ for the complete payment of all debt formed the New Covenant which He offers to mankind. After His Resurrection and Ascension, mankind could now receive the Love/Light of the Creator that gives life to his spirit, and this Love/Light is known to us as the Holy Spirit. And receiving Love/Light, the Holy Spirit leads us on a path towards perfection and union with God.

I urge you, let Love lead and nothing else; be born again. The water baptism is the complete debt repayment, the fire baptism is for the free Soul to receive the Love/Light of God into they're spirit to once more transmit and radiate Light and Love.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Aknaton

John 3:1-6 KJV
There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

The above Holy Scripture shows the need for an individual to be born again. As a fallen human, ones spirit is lifeless without the Love/Light of the Creator in them, it being lost during Adams futile decision.

Ones lifeless Soul dwells in darkness and is exposed to duality and the pain of separation. In the absence of Love; the uniting principle, interactions with other Souls cause Karma/Sin/Debt which needs to be paid off and as a result, a Soul is trapped within the world of forms. That which is born of the flesh is the flesh, and an endless cycle of Karma/Sin/Debt repayment. And the Soul acquires a coat of Sin/Karma, and this is referred to in the Bible as the "oldman".

Now, the Logos incarnated out of love to set the captives free from sin and free them back into the Eternal Realms of Love & Light, which is heaven. This is why this sect was called The Way; he is the way out of being trapped in this physical reality. All that are born of the flesh are subject to karma/sin and none can save themselves; it will only take the Creator who is free and beyond karmic chains to free the trapped Souls.

He paid with His own pure blood for all debts and put them upon Himself and humans had a chance to be redeemed. This blood payment made by Jesus Christ for the complete payment of all debt formed the New Covenant which He offers to mankind. After His Resurrection and Ascension, mankind could now receive the Love/Light of the Creator that gives life to his spirit, and this Love/Light is known to us as the Holy Spirit. And receiving Love/Light, the Holy Spirit leads us on a path towards perfection and union with God.

I urge you, let Love lead and nothing else; be born again. The water baptism is the complete debt repayment, the fire baptism is for the free Soul to receive the Love/Light of God into they're spirit to once more transmit and radiate Light and Love.

What has Karma to do with sin, what is the connection ?

[Jyotir]

What does Karma have to do with sin?

Very simply...

If "sin" is seen as ignorant intention and action, then that action necessarily generates karma.

If one becomes purely an instrument of God’s Will, then by definition they are acting in/as/through the dynamic Truth-consciousness, e.g., Divine, in the physical, and therefore not generating, not subject to karma; they are free of it.


~ J

[Aknaton]

Originally Posted by Jyotir

What does Karma have to do with sin?

Very simply...

If "sin" is seen as ignorant intention and action, then that action necessarily generates karma.

If one becomes purely an instrument of God’s Will, then by definition they are acting in/as/through the dynamic Truth-consciousness, e.g., Divine, in the physical, and therefore not generating, not subject to karma; they are free of it.


~ J

Thank you Jyotir, I couldn't have said it better!

[sky]

Originally Posted by Aknaton

Thank you Jyotir, I couldn't have said it better!

We will have to agree to differ, as I cannot see the connection.....

[Godskyd]

Being born again is simply putting away your old life and wearing a new life through accepting Christ as your lord and personal savior while being born of the spirit is an evidence of repentance that comes by your spirit connecting with God to bear witness that you are a son/daughter of God.

[Godskyd]

Originally Posted by Aknaton

John 3:1-6 KJV
There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

The above Holy Scripture shows the need for an individual to be born again. As a fallen human, ones spirit is lifeless without the Love/Light of the Creator in them, it being lost during Adams futile decision.

Ones lifeless Soul dwells in darkness and is exposed to duality and the pain of separation. In the absence of Love; the uniting principle, interactions with other Souls cause Karma/Sin/Debt which needs to be paid off and as a result, a Soul is trapped within the world of forms. That which is born of the flesh is the flesh, and an endless cycle of Karma/Sin/Debt repayment. And the Soul acquires a coat of Sin/Karma, and this is referred to in the Bible as the "oldman".

Now, the Logos incarnated out of love to set the captives free from sin and free them back into the Eternal Realms of Love & Light, which is heaven. This is why this sect was called The Way; he is the way out of being trapped in this physical reality. All that are born of the flesh are subject to karma/sin and none can save themselves; it will only take the Creator who is free and beyond karmic chains to free the trapped Souls.

He paid with His own pure blood for all debts and put them upon Himself and humans had a chance to be redeemed. This blood payment made by Jesus Christ for the complete payment of all debt formed the New Covenant which He offers to mankind. After His Resurrection and Ascension, mankind could now receive the Love/Light of the Creator that gives life to his spirit, and this Love/Light is known to us as the Holy Spirit. And receiving Love/Light, the Holy Spirit leads us on a path towards perfection and union with God.

I urge you, let Love lead and nothing else; be born again. The water baptism is the complete debt repayment, the fire baptism is for the free Soul to receive the Love/Light of God into they're spirit to once more transmit and radiate Light and Love.

Halleluhaj

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by Jyotir

What does Karma have to do with sin?

Very simply...

If "sin" is seen as ignorant intention and action, then that action necessarily generates karma.

If one becomes purely an instrument of God’s Will, then by definition they are acting in/as/through the dynamic Truth-consciousness, e.g., Divine, in the physical, and therefore not generating, not subject to karma; they are free of it.


~ J

What gets neglected is the issue of humanity being a fallen situation. But, rarely does anyone ask, "Fallen from what?"

Since the fall, the material and the organic is primary.
Origins are found in Spirit, and involving the timeless.

The Lord spoke about, "The elect". Those who are predestined for salvation, apart from time.

Jesus compared The Holy Spirit with the wind. Saying, "so it is with everyone born of the Spirit."
Nevertheless, the sower goes forth.
The invitation offered.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

What gets neglected is the issue of humanity being a fallen situation. But, rarely does anyone ask, "Fallen from what?"

Since the fall, the material and the organic is primary.
Origins are found in Spirit, and involving the timeless.

The Lord spoke about, "The elect". Those who are predestined for salvation.

Are we not all predestined for salvation and if not.... what then ?

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by sky123

Are we not all predestined for salvation and if not.... what then ?

All are invited sky. Not everyone believes, or is interested.
Takes two.

The Giver of the gift, and one who recieves. Resulting in change.

The Holy Spirit convicts of sin, and inspires one to salvation.
(John 3:8)