What lies beyond the physical?

[august2803]

Originally Posted by lemex

No, think of it this way, you will see beyond what you see. Have you taken the opportunity of such of synchronism which always exist. Synchronism preexists and is a physical thing we mistakenly think manifests but really doesn't materialize spontaneously. It's input. It registers or doesn't register as you will see. Synchronism requires choice. Synchronism is always in plain sight, yet ignored. It'interesting the choice of the word crazy is used. It really isn't and is quite normal.

i mean with people and such showing up all the time suddenly and after i have thought aboit them etc long way from home etc kinda crazy to me

but what lies beyond the physical? is that angels and colours?

[august2803]

aura? ive seen auras sometimes

[Timeless]

Everything outside of our mind/emotions is independent from us...

There are even parts of ourselves that we cannot comprehend. Anything that has to do with feelings of love or emotions, all exist pretty much in a different place nature. Basically, everything would continue on without our minds.

[lowlyservant]

"What lies beyond the physical?"

The spirit world.

[lemex]

Originally Posted by lowlyservant

"What lies beyond the physical?"

The spirit world.

Yeah, nicely put. We have no idea what that means. Is it like here. Are there cities, towns, money, birth, structures of worship. Are we born with a clean slate as here having to develop. Quite a surprise waking up it seems here...lol. Will our memories be washed then making new ones. When we talk about this movement we assume it will be with knowledge and a state of awareness, unlike here no evolution or development, or learning. Are we mature? Is the evolutionary development process birth to old age mandatory here unique or are spirits now immutable? Do we stop growing. Wonders what the community will be like. Anyone know!

[firstandlast]

All I can say; is that it is simply another perspective on this world--

It is not exactly non-physical; but many people who would experience it, would have a hard time calling it physical; because of what they have defined for themselves as physical-- Physical is the same thing as spirit and each are more capable than often imagined--


Now, what it is like depends on where we go with it; if we are heading towards what might be called the godless realms, it is a certain amount of clarity through inclarity, or in the realm of what is seen as pure potential; it is that place that is often seen as a primal substance, in which all things appear capable of arising from-- This is also a pure nexus point so to speak; that is, if you can arrive anywhere from this point--

The other land is the realm of light; this is the same thing from another perspective, it is not things in terms of potential but things in terms of all possibilities simultaneously existing-- That is, it is a substance that does not have potential to be realized, but contains all potentialities realized already-- This also serves as a pure nexus point in which every situation can be reached--


Now in between this, more relevant to the human is inner earth; or the land of archetypal beings that are pure light in terms of colors, and pure potential in terms of intent-- Each place that can be accessed in terms of being from the earth, is the ability to expand each energetic principle into their current state in physical representation-- That is, it will relate to us creation in a manner that is much similar to things we are already familiar with; however access points to inner earth from the human realm of things, deals with the energy that the consciousness that is being dealt with might not be having the same experience, or will experience the same state in different terms of physicality--

Now one of the major issues is density; these beings do not experience it the same way as us, because they are not particularly integrated well enough in our density to be expanded as such-- Because of this, our planet has a very valuable resource to interdimensional beings; but that resource is not any particular substance, but the ability to expand experience into greater refined definition--

So there is this confusing situation in that; many people experience the expansion of this energy from the angle of perspective that they are trying to move beyond this realm (which is really the same realm of all realms), where as those beings that are being reached towards are inherently working their way towards us-- So there is this mixing going on, but each perspective is experiencing a fragmented aspect of the story, but each one is helping the other even though the stories are so different from each other in appearance and appearance of intent (paradoxical), but are unified in the same occurence and conclusion--

[MicroMacro]

Originally Posted by wstein

The unmanifest (beyond the manifest and physical) has no matter, no energy, no time, no laws of nature, no form (existence). These are the areas of reality with spirit/soul/divine, consciousness, thoughts, concepts, possibilities, potentials.

If spirit/soul/divine, consciousness, thoughts, concepts, possibilities, potentials
has no matter, no energy, no time, no laws of nature, no form (existence) Then what are they comprised of? Because something can't consist of nothing.

[wstein]

Originally Posted by MicroMacro

If spirit/soul/divine, consciousness, thoughts, concepts, possibilities, potentials
has no matter, no energy, no time, no laws of nature, no form (existence) Then what are they comprised of? Because something can't consist of nothing.

spirit/soul consists of consciousness, thoughts, possibilities, potentials, creativity and other stuff. Thoughts and potentials are 'somethings' that have a reality of their own. Possibilities are like attributes of base reality that are used in combinations to make up other stuff like thoughts potentials, and consciousness.

One of the problems here is the word 'something'. It really refers to two classes of stuff. One kind of something is that of form, like say a basketball or a spoon. This is the stuff of the manifest. The other kind of something has no definite form or substance like happiness. This is the stuff of the unmanifest.

[MicroMacro]

Originally Posted by wstein

One of the problems here is the word 'something'. It really refers to two classes of stuff. One kind of something is that of form, like say a basketball or a spoon. This is the stuff of the manifest. The other kind of something has no definite form or substance like happiness. This is the stuff of the unmanifest.

How is happiness unmanifest? It seems manifest to me. It's not a solid like a basketball or a spoon, but it's manifest all the same because it's attainable. It's something a person can have or be in or strive toward.

Maybe a better question than what are these 'somethings' comprised of is where do ideas come from. Something - an idea or something unmanifest - can't form from nothing. It can't come into being if it isn't being communicated from something else.

So what is that something else?

[wstein]

Originally Posted by MicroMacro

Something - an idea or something unmanifest - can't form from nothing. It can't come into being if it isn't being communicated from something else.

Why can it not come from nothing? Something from nothing is what creation is.

One can certainly make a reasonable case that 'idea' is not the primary source of all else. However, as long as you say anything comes from something else, if followed up the chain you reach a <whatever> without a source. That leaves either a <whatever> that sprang from nothing or there was never only nothing to start with.

In my view ideas are made of combinations of essences (attributes of reality). They really are not that different from potentials other than they lack the essence to enable manifestation directly. Beings are one place ideas can be manifest as the being supplies the manifestation.