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Old 26-12-2017, 02:39 PM
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What happens after death

After passing from this world, you will either stay earthbound in spirit form or you will go to heaven .
Those who do not go to the light, still have additional learning to learn from and they will learn from other spirits and the living , who they will watch and learn from .

The dead will find them selves drawn to certain people , and its there that god wishes them to learn from. Also they will hang around earthbound because they have sinned and so have to earn the right to go back to heaven .

Everyone eventually will go to the light . and back to heaven where they will live for eternity in happiness .
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Old 26-12-2017, 11:11 PM
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After passing from this world, you will either stay earthbound in spirit form or you will go to heaven .
Those who do not go to the light, still have additional learning to learn from and they will learn from other spirits and the living , who they will watch and learn from .

The dead will find them selves drawn to certain people , and its there that god wishes them to learn from. Also they will hang around earthbound because they have sinned and so have to earn the right to go back to heaven .

Everyone eventually will go to the light . and back to heaven where they will live for eternity in happiness .
If that's what you believe, that's what'll happen to you.
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Old 27-12-2017, 11:19 AM
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If that's what you believe, that's what'll happen to you.

If I believe I will go to Valhalla, will that also happen to me?
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Old 27-12-2017, 11:49 AM
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If I believe I will go to Valhalla, will that also happen to me?

I believe so, yes. If that's what you really believe. You create that with the energy and thoughts of your emotions. I have a feeling you are being sarcastic, so the chances are that isn't really a belief for you.

It's energy, so if you don't believe in anything, then you will just be, who you are in the energetic state you are.



If you love the ocean, your energy will create the sensations, thoughts, feelings of the ocean, and you will experience your personal energy of the ocean.
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Old 27-12-2017, 12:35 PM
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I believe so, yes. If that's what you really believe. You create that with the energy and thoughts of your emotions. I have a feeling you are being sarcastic, so the chances are that isn't really a belief for you.

It's energy, so if you don't believe in anything, then you will just be, who you are in the energetic state you are.



If you love the ocean, your energy will create the sensations, thoughts, feelings of the ocean, and you will experience your personal energy of the ocean.

But in Valhalla there's stuff like alcohol and a common rule in the afterlife no matter what your beliefs are, there's nothing you can do to satisfy your Earthly desires. Care to explain me this one?
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Old 27-12-2017, 01:01 PM
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After passing from this world, you will either stay earthbound in spirit form or you will go to heaven .

Well, what is this then?

Are these really the only two choices I have?

What if I would like to cease permanently to exist?

What if what I want to happen when I die is that I die, my family plans the arrangements for burial, they grieve if they wish or can, and then they promptly move on, with myself having witnessed none of this because I am no longer within consciousness?

What if that is what I would like to happen in the afterlife? Nothing.

Ceasing to exist. No reincarnation (my God what is the point?), no heaven, no Hell. Just nothing.

Why is that bad?

Is there any religious or philosophical belief system that even allows for this?

Why are you giving me two choices?

Whom are you to determine what it is that happens to us after we pass?
Do I not have another choice but heaven or earthbound? How is earthbound any good? In fact how is heaven any good? Live a life and die to continue to live? For what? For whom? Just whom is holding the reigns here?

God is love. For the sake of love? It doesn't make sense. I am quite capable of having love right here, right now, just look it is all around us. Sometimes we simply get caught up in our own dilemmas and we miss it.


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After passing from this world, you will either stay earthbound in spirit form or you will go to heaven .

Dictated by whom, and why?

Two choices.

And what of all the countless others?
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Old 27-12-2017, 02:28 PM
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But in Valhalla there's stuff like alcohol and a common rule in the afterlife no matter what your beliefs are, there's nothing you can do to satisfy your Earthly desires. Care to explain me this one?

Slayer...Of course there is away to rid yourself of earthly desires....

When you arrive as a newly spiritual being, and you find that you still have needs for alcohol, drugs, sex etc etc....or any emotional anxieties etc etc....or any unloving desires towards people that are still residing on earth & in the flesh, that might find you needing to linger around the earth.

Then I would seriously consider thinking that you may have some very unsavory spiritual beings/entities still attached to you at a SOUL LEVEL after leaving the flesh....in other words SOUL TO SOUL.....THEIR "SOUL SELF" CONNECTED TO YOUR "SOUL SELF".

If you had them while you were in the flesh and didn't realize it, then they would have been connected to you at the soul level....and getting rid of the earthly flesh does not get rid of them at the same time.....
......you could go to hell and back in the spiritual world, and they will still be with you when you get back....soul to soul....still endeavoring to get you to drink, smoke and be sexual....they will be just as discrete about influencing your thoughts for as long as they can be undetectedable....but even if you work it out that they are connected to you, it is their will to be there connected to you, and you will not be able to break their will nor their energetic bond/connection to you whatsoever.....

....you will need to find your way to the spiritual lands created by god CREATOR,....(THE SUMMERLANDS)....and in the first sphere where all are welcome and made comfortable no matter what their past deeds were, up to the point of arriving there in, you will find healing centers that can deal with the attachments....

....AND THIS IS THE ONE MAJOR REASON THAT I AM SO VERY ANXIOUS TO EXIT THE EARTHLY FLESH FORM AND THE EARTH ITSELF, AND THAT IS TO RID MYSELF OF THESE STINKING ENTITIES THAT HAVE BEEN CONNECTED TO ME FROM VERY EARLY CHILDHOOD, I have tried every damned possible thing to get rid of them but not a thing has worked !!! ....but I have to wait because I have a responsibility regarding looking after my folks for a while longer before I can go.

Slayer.. maybe I have piqued yours or maybe even someone else's interest...
But even if I haven't. ...try to keep an open mind about it after you exit from the flesh....because these very discrete attachments can be a newly arrivals downfall into a very dark and spiraling spiritual existence for many hundreds and even thousands of years and leading to a hellish mind, shape and form and location.

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Old 28-12-2017, 02:09 AM
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But in Valhalla there's stuff like alcohol and a common rule in the afterlife no matter what your beliefs are, there's nothing you can do to satisfy your Earthly desires. Care to explain me this one?

Yes, if you want to drink alcohol, then you would create it with your energy. I think what that means is, what you need and want here, is not what you need and want there. When you are in energy form, there's no need to really eat, drink, shower, ect...unless you want too. I don't know about religious stuff, I'm basing this off my own NDE, which was not religious.
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Old 27-12-2017, 04:05 AM
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I don't believe that God would give us free will but then he would just wait in anticipation to send you to everlasting hell for screwing up on earth. IMO God is unconditional love and I don't think he plays games with souls that haven't a clue to their life before born into this world. God IMO isn't that sicko minded.

I can't say what happens to souls when they pass out of this physical body and world. God has many mansions and your guess is as good as mine which mansion we will end up in.

I believe heaven and hell spoken of are both here on earth. If hell is down in a bottom pit and heaven is of the highest plateaus up above then how is it told in the bible that the people in hell could see across the chasm and see those in heaven but didn't know how to cross over? Perhaps heaven is the high I AM consciousness and hell is the earthly bound consciousness of sin{LACK}. Sin is described as being without. Without knowledge of Truth of God the I AM consciousness.

I guess we will find out when we pass from this earthly life and probably not before. I do believe we have had past lives. There are to many people that know places and people that they have never been to or met in this present life but they somehow know.
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Old 27-12-2017, 11:03 AM
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I don't believe that God would give us free will but then he would just wait in anticipation to send you to everlasting hell for screwing up on earth. IMO God is unconditional love and I don't think he plays games with souls that haven't a clue to their life before born into this world. God IMO isn't that sicko minded.

I can't say what happens to souls when they pass out of this physical body and world. God has many mansions and your guess is as good as mine which mansion we will end up in.

I believe heaven and hell spoken of are both here on earth. If hell is down in a bottom pit and heaven is of the highest plateaus up above then how is it told in the bible that the people in hell could see across the chasm and see those in heaven but didn't know how to cross over? Perhaps heaven is the high I AM consciousness and hell is the earthly bound consciousness of sin{LACK}. Sin is described as being without. Without knowledge of Truth of God the I AM consciousness.

I guess we will find out when we pass from this earthly life and probably not before. I do believe we have had past lives. There are to many people that know places and people that they have never been to or met in this present life but they somehow know.

Well, here's a good place to start to contemplate what happens when we "die".
http://www.nderf.org/

A person can "believe" whatever they choose to believe. I encourage and hope you consider doing the research, and please look at what is gleaned from these experiencers rather than search for details to enforce any religious "beliefs".
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