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Old 02-08-2016, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Clear Blue Sky
The *?* isn't denoting any kind of question, just when I came to it the option of words to describe what I was referring to lacked all-encompassing precision and I did not know what word to put there. Faith, audacity, foolish-wisdom, courage, surrender, humbleness, trust? boldness? challenge? stubbornness? arrogant mage pride?

By your last paragraph though looking soberly at the human condition, instruction will always be needed. I think an early mistake (?) I made was in approaching God with empathy.... the notion that if I could imagine myself walking around in God's shoes I could figure God out and then ascertain the truth and right judgment/assessment of God. Kabbalah at its start acknowledges that God is unknowable, that there are many interfaces expression of God in the world/human condition, and that the business of humans is to respond to the presence and the inter-action of those interfaces, and to know their place and path and places, and to reach. I think a person raised with a full (FULL) understanding of the Hebrew language and the true resonant full meaning of those words, who had read and learned and walked the walk and lived the life, would gain much richness from that study contemplation journey. For the outsider to that rich ancient culture perhaps as you seem to suggest it would be better served to look direct to god for other paths of understanding. But always that faith/courage/*?* that we grow toward God even knowing that ultimate knowing of God is unknowable.

Nice post.

Of course, God is "unknowable" and that is exactly why one must go through "the cloud of unknowing" and SURRENDER completely to that which lies beyond it all. Books and scriptures and teachings can only point to that which is unknowable and which cannot be described in words. They are useful until they are no longer necessary except as a means of communication in forums such as these.

In any case, I agree with you that "looking soberly at the human condition, instruction will always be needed." However, for those few who discover the "straight and narrow path", surrendering to the guru within that is inherent in all is all the "instruction" that is ultimately needed. The mystics of various traditions support this point and to claim that this is no longer possible is highly questionable.

One must set one's sights high lest one slip into the conventional. (Keep in mind, however, that what is "conventional" for one may not be conventional for another.)
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