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Originally Posted by BlueSky
Most books only offer something else to identify with, ...
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That's what they can become yes. Lots of egotistical people in the religion and spirituality biz, The point of those books is not to worship or identify with them. In fact, once you get what they are pointing to, you have to abandon them. The books that point to freedom become objects of bondage if one clings to them or stays stuck in them. They are asking you to discover or realize something about yourself. once you do that, the books become pointless for you and have zero value for you and in fact, if continued to be used by you, prevent unconditioned, unattached freedom in the moment.
But then everything I have read or heard and understood exists within me as knowledge forever. So that's an odd thing. There is a type of knowledge that allows us to change and "be here now empty and free" but this knowledge is very different from other conceptual knowledge that imprisons us within its concepts and thoughts.
Krishnamurti claimed using logic these types of knowing have different sources. There is one type of knowledge from the brain and thought and another from a source outside the brain and body. He argued since the whole experience or relationship with thought and the brain changes when this thing is seen and realized, it's source cannot be within the brain.
The brain and it's thought is conditioned, programmed, habitual, reactionary, unconscious memories and motivations, low self awareness, full of conflict, and negative emotions. So can something within all of that emerge and change the entire thing? We have one brain, not two. So what becomes aware of the whole of it and transcends it all? And in this transcending the whole structure of it changes.
This points to a lot of stated stuff from books. We have a body, we are not the body. We have thoughts, we are not thoughts, we have conditioning believing we are this or that, we are not this conditioning. We are awareness and we create our experience by what we identify with. In a sense, we create "what we are" moment to moment, because we project outward, what we are identifying with within.