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Old 05-10-2017, 01:39 PM
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I thought it might also be useful to try to give some greater context regarding these layers/level. I am not talking about intellectual knowledge or like reading about it in some book. As one consciously realizes a layer, they "know". It is like you deep down always really had access to it, but for some reason you "being it" was obscured (or blocked). And with that knowing, it is not some vague thing that you can't describe (or is vague), it something that you can explain or attempt to give context to.

As an example, I thought I would give you some written examples of knowing at an extremely high level. In both cases, the following texts are from someone who has "realized" at least to level 11. They know what it is to "be" beyond our current universe and dimensional reality. The first example is someone actually explaining the steps in the process. What you do and what happens to get there. This is from the Tao Te Ching - Chapter 28...

Know the strength of man,
But keep a woman's care!
Be the stream of the universe!
Being the stream of the universe,
Ever true and unswerving,
Become as a little child once more.
Know the white,
But keep the black!
Be an example to the world!
Being an example to the world,
Ever true and unwavering,
Return to the infinite.
Know honor,
Yet keep humility.
Be the valley of the universe!
Being the valley of the universe,
Ever true and resourceful,
Return to the state of the uncarved block.
When the block is carved, it becomes useful.
When the sage uses it, he becomes the ruler.
Thus, "A great tailor cuts little."

The second is someone writing who is describing what it is like when someone has realized that level. It is not just vague words, but an actual attempt to give insight into the being of that level. It is from the Avatamsaka Sutra...


Great bodhisattvas have no attachment to Buddha and do not develop attachments;

they have no attachment to the teachings and do not develop attachments; they have

no attachment to lands and do not develop attachments; they have no attachments

to sentient beings and do not develop attachments. They do not see that there are

sentient beings, yet they carry on educational activity, civilizing and teaching ways


of liberation; they do not give up the practices of bodhisattvas with great compassion

and great commitment. Seeing buddhas and hearing their teachings, they act accordingly;

trusting the buddhas they plant roots of goodness, ceaselessly honoring and serving them.


They are able to shake infinite worlds in the ten directions by spiritual powers; their minds are

broad, being equal to the cosmos. They know various explanations of truth, they know how

many sentient beings there are, they know the differences among sentient beings, they know

the birth of suffering, they know the extinction of suffering; while knowing all acts are like reflected

images, they carry out the deeds of bodhisattvas. They sever the root of all subjection to birth.


They carry out practices of bodhisattvas for the sole purpose of saving sentient beings and yet

do not practice anything. Conforming to the essential nature of all buddhas, they develop a mind

like an immense mountain. They know all falsehood and delusion, and enter the door of omniscience.

Their knowledge and wisdom are broad and vast and unshakable, due to the attainment of true enlightenment. This is the insight of practical knowledge of equally saving all sentient beings in the ocean of birth and death.
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