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Originally Posted by happy soul
I feel that these three lies need to be seen clearly in order for people to fully relinquish attack.
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Just wanted to add that what I think you are referring to, and also needs to be differentiated is speaking up versus an attack.
This is tricky territory because there are many grey lines, and it will be dependent on person, situation and territory but ultimately what you are saying (I believe) is that the law is that for one who is no longer bound by ego, speaking is useful, but what is hard is for one to forsake and be unbound by ego.
If one speaks sweet words, but lies and misleads others into corruption, is this acceptable?
If one attacks indirectly, and uses others to attack, is this acceptable?
If one speaks up to tyranny or lies, is this acceptable?
If one does not speak up and hides instead, is this acceptable?
If one lies but speaks directly, is this acceptable?
If one speaks truth through strong direct speech, is this acceptable?
If one points out the corrupt, is this acceptable?
I believe, as in all things, it will depend on the person and the context. But again what I believe you are ultimately referring to is if a person can speak out of true love or not. True love in this context means the actualization of God or Buddha nature - knowing that other is self intimately and living this as a truth, the full unbinding of ego (not repression of self-talk, but actualization of God-nature - which is the Buddha's liberation or Jesus's actualization)
Herein, there can be more trust. There are posters on this forum who actualize such truths and do not from ego, in my opinion. Though they bring no attention to themselves, their example is clear, and I for one am honored to be in their presence.
Until then, such absolutes are hard to judge.
ACIM I presume talks of the Law of Self - as other is none other than self, than of course there are consequences, but until one is mired in the delusions of ego, well we all know how much conceit that involves.
And thus the purest laws can be forgone. When the true manifests, all becomes true. When the false speak, even the pretty bow tie and "soft words" on top is just a pile of poo-ey - conceit runs deep. That is why the holy life is best lived to fruition of God or Buddha nature, and all spiritual masters teach this to be the real goal.
BT