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Originally Posted by The Necromancer
Yes. I was only emphasising the point where most people believe that they can use their minds to go beyond the mind and enlightenment or awakening is something that can occur merely through the intellect, reason or by thinking about it a lot, when that can only show us the door, but can't take us through it. The mind of man is way too limited to understand or perceive such a nebulous concept as God, but people still try and still fail (the non-duality forum is full of them). The mind is still a part (if not all) of the ego and even all reasoning, all knowledge and all jnana has to be dropped in the end. Hence the Vedas gives way to Vedanta - the end of all that can ever be learned, known or understood about it...thus we reach the limitations of Buddhism.
Yeah, so who cast that net again? :p
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In many places, we read that there are two paths to realization: Contemplation and Meditation. Where contemplation is an active mind working, which is evolution (e in Latin means 'out of,' and volution means circling a center), meditation reflects the light back from resting and stilling the mind of our lower nature. Evolution is relative to Ecstasy (ec means 'out of,' and stasis means rest). The essence of this is to say that we meditation relative to our mind acting or resting. Both are meditation.
To get this straight, realize that you are meditating this life from a higher plane of existence. As a dream is parallel to this projection in a lower form, life itself is a dream from our higher nature (meditation). You are literally meditating the entire reality into existence. Shifting this process, we meditate down here in the lower Gunas (Rajas is time and Tamas is form). Meditation here allows Rajas and Tamas to still, revealing the Sattva mind in true being. Self-reflection is light shined back to Sattva, allowing the person below to know as he is known. This is the dweller on the threshhold waking up to the higher nature driving the chariot so to speak. Right now, we do not know as we are known. Meeting yourself in the image is recognition from each side of identity.
This can be realized by the higher mind waking up from contemplation below, which is the job of Manu (to think). Two songs come to mind.
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If you know this, then you know the identity of Harry, Dumbledore and Voldemort as the same person (Present, Future and Past lower nature). See it in this clip:
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When Jacob asks the identity of the LORD (Ishvara) he wrestled with, the Lord avoids the answer. Who is he? Jacob's higher mind. When the student is ready, the master appears. If you know the identity of both as the same person in and out of time, you know the rest.
Two paths from the train station. Contemplate actively or meditation from stillness of this lower mind. Either way, you are the same Being (Sattva) in a state of meditation (thinking).
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