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Old 27-02-2019, 10:28 AM
bartholomew
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Originally Posted by NoOne
Thank you for that, those are very profound thoughts, no doubt a result of decades of thesis, antithesis and finally a synthesis of how things really are (as far as we can conceive of it with our human brains).

I always thought that all religions started off as Cargo Cults. Much more advanced beings came to Earth and tried to teach us and lift us up from our lowly existence. We inevitably ended up worshipping them as gods. We are again going through a period, where humanity is "ascending" to a higher level of evolution. Those beings of light that are far above us on the evolutionary ladder are doing everything they can to assist us. We shall become more like them in a sense, though not quite.

I am quite taken by your concept of creation, it is really quite elegant and beautiful. There really must be something to the "light", this blinding white light that happens when a higher being descends to our plane. Maybe you're right and it does signify an act of creation, perhaps the only way they can physically interact with us is by also creating such a subtle (not quite as dense as ours) physical body and when such a body is created by a being of pure light and spirit, that is when the "lightshow" takes place.

I always wonder though, whether the creation of the physical world is truly the benevolent act we assume it is. If it is created by a being, that being surely doesn't come across as overly competent or benevolent. The created physical world is a bit of a mess, to put it mildly. In terms of most beings that have to endure it, it seems a lot closer to hell than heaven most of the time, with immense suffering a given for most creatures. That opens of the possibility of a Demiurge, a less-than-perfect creator who is either incompetent, evil, or a combination of the two. I wonder what your thoughts are on that?


My writing is wholly inadequate though. It manages to hint at reality but falls short in every area. This is a sure sign, when it is observed, of some limited ability. It's OK. All we can do is to keep trying.

When a higher being wants to appear to a human he or she will simply construct an ethereal double, give it the desired message and send it to the lower subplane of the ehtereal at the location of the recipient. Then Moses, for instance or Mary mother of Jesus, or so many others, will actually see and hear this visionary seemingly high personage. Remember that the lower ethereal is just a bit higher than the physical. But it is typical for the messenger to be surrounded by light and it is also typical for a powerful, loving radiation to envelope the listener. The girls at Fatima where also thus entranced. It is quite a common method of communication. Using the ethereal plane avoids the danger to the physical human should direct contact be made to a really high plane. The shock of such an experience would probably be harmful to us.

Benevolence is an aspect of the astral plane. In higher planes it exists in it's higher correspondence. But the emotional elements of these are missing. For instance on the plane just above the mental plane, the divine, we would find benevolence as being "directed use of Will". God is not a human being but God has a body. God's body of expression is everything in existence either spiritual or physical on all planes. The entire universe and everything in it including our bodies is God's body of expression. God is impersonal. But this does not mean that God does not care about His creation. No. Now for the harder pill to swallow. Our relationship with God the creator is limited to the sphere, the spiritual realm, of this planet as it is linked to our star, the sun. It is not a new concept but the God to which we owe our existence is really the great being which corresponds with informing our physical sun. This is truth. Nearer to home there are great beings more closely associated with the Earth. Our planet is managed in all aspects by a grand assemblage of human and post human souls who work unceasingly to keep the Earth as it is so that we can continue as a species. This is called by esotericists the Hierarchy of the planet. At it's head is the World Teacher, the Christ. This is the very same one which is revered by Christians. When on Earth the man Jesus took on the responsibilities of this teacher. This is the reason he left us with such a large body of ideas.

Is God benevolent? In the lower expression the answer is yes. In the higher expression it is no. But love is always present. Mind you that the higher correspondence of what we know as love is "Will full cooperation with creative purpose". And what is this purpose?

What does God do? God expresses. The business of any deity is expression. This is accomplished by engaging in creation with purpose. The mechanism of that purpose is evolution first physical then spiritual. Human souls begin in human bodies. They live thousands of lifetimes here on Earth (and other worlds) getting kicked around but always advancing. When they finally leave they take their store of wisdom with them. Now they have evolved to a post human status. They are no longer human souls. They join with others in groups and assume a new identity. Then they either stay with the Earth to serve or they go elsewhere for new adventures but always learning and growing. This process is the very stuff of God expressing. As His creations finally approach and return to His body of expression on the highest plane God expands. This is the reason for it all. Mind you we must relate this in human, imperfect, limited terms. The actual reality is too high for us to comprehend.

You say the world is a mess. Right you are. Why are we here? Because we must acquire wisdom before we can leave we have to be situated where we can learn from experience and then apply what has been learned. This is the only way. Consider this... If we were to stay on the mental plane for instance and attend schools instead of coming to Earth as humans we could learn but the lessons would be empty of those things which result in us becoming wise. It is impossible, on any but the lowest spiritual planes, for someone, a soul, to meet adversity for more than a few moments. But we have to not only meet but be immersed in strife and conflict. How else can we learn and apply and develop wisdom? How else can we become gods ourselves? So the Earth is a mess. It is a bit easier if we realize that at any moment there are on Earth a great majority of very inexperienced souls. As they advance and finally graduate they leave the physical world. But new souls are coming here all the time. This is why the world is like it is. Most souls here are very junior. Funny thing is that there is no requirement for world leaders to be advanced souls. This is the reason we so often find bad people in power. This is also the reason we so often see advanced souls incarnated living as hermits quietly where they can do their work free of overt conflict.

I don't want this answer to get too long so I'll stop here.

There is another interesting thing I will say about society but it can wait a bit.

Thanks for reading....

Bartholomew
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