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Originally Posted by Emmalevine
Your first paragraph reminds me of a dream that Carl Jung once had; he dreamed he entered a church where he found a yogi meditating. As he walked closer, he realised with some discomfort that the yogi had his face and was in fact him and the self he knew about was being dreamed, not the other way around. Once the yogi awakened, he knew his personal experience of self would no longer be.
Not sure if this is relevant, but is it more or less what you are saying?
I can understand what you mean about time and space being in a human domain. However, I'm still struggling with your second paragraph. As time and space do not exist in a non human domain, what can we say about the spirit world (if there is one) and individuality? Do you mind elaborating a bit? Many thanks.
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Time is a linear framework we create mentally to provide context to change. This framework is an idea. You see evidence of time everywhere, but you never experience time directly.
Space is the framework that gives meaning to the appearance of objects. Things appear to be separated by this thing we call space but this thing we call space is not other than an idea. If there were no objects in space the idea of space would have no meaning whatsoever, because everything would be space or more pointedly nothingness.
Out of nothingness comes the world of appearance. Time and space are the experiential frameworks within which nothingness experiences this world. At no point do time and space become more than ideas, and at no point are these ideas necessary for spaciousness or nothingness to be infinitely and eternally itself.
As such, we could say the human experiential framework is completely imaginary, like a dream of nothingness being something. The human body possesses the unique gift of conditioned thinking. Nothingness is unconditioned, but as change apparently happens through time, one object in apparent space (the person) becomes capable of thinking and emoting according to how it changes in relation to how change is already happening.
Within this dynamic nothingness loses itself in its own apparent world, an impersonal creation morphing into a personal dream. Most folks are unconscious of the consciousness prior to conditioning, the unconditioned nothingness, not just that this nothingness 'exists', but that it is all that exists, and within a certain context, the only no-thing in existence.
So in a way, this is like Jung's dream realization. When you fall asleep at night, your thinking mind creates a dream world and populates it with characters and features. The mind is not localized in the dream, but rather, is everything in the dream itself. While you are free to play your role as the dream character, at no point is the person in bed sleeping 'actually' the character.
In the same way, nothingness is not limited to something, but here in form we appear that way and also possess the ability to transcend the 'idea' of being just something. Seeing through the 'ideas' of time and space as an overlay to 'your' (impersonally your) human creation is what some point to as the way. The seeing itself is seen from nothingness, and not through the eyes of something, like something in time and space.