19-09-2017, 07:00 PM
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Free Will
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Originally Posted by Morpheus
Regarding the o.p., and the question.
Science has come to the understanding today that space/time is illusory.
Do we have free will? Yes and no. We need to see things in the bigger context.
In quantum physics we see that two apparently contradictory issues can both be correct.
We have free will, but in the bigger context of eternity, infinity or the timeless, what we will freely do in the "future", is known.
Biblical prophecy also is confirmation of this.
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Here is the lowest, the most dense of the planes of existence (think of these as dimensions) space is coarse and heavy therefore time is very fast. As we progress upwards through the various subtle (spiritual) planes matter (not physical matter but the matter of each plane) is finer and finer. When we finally arrive at the highest plane, where the creator (God) is we find that there is no "matter" at all (again this is NOT physical plane matter but spiritual matter). Since there is no matter there is no time. This is the meaning of "eternity". Eternity is NOT an endless progression of time. Rather it is an existence wherein time does not exist (because there is no matter of which time is but an effect).
Now we are poised to understand how and why it is that we have free will yet God already knows how we will choose. This seeming contradiction is simply because of perspective. We are in the heavy physical. God is "in" the highest plane which is timeless. We experience time. God simply "is". For God there is no progression of time. There is only the "present". Our brains are not adequate to understanding this. The matematics of the third dimension will not do. When science finally recognizes the subtle worlds it will be through a new mathematics which will be unlike any that we have now. Quantum physics brings us to the edge, the barrier between physical and spiritual but it will go no further. Why? Because it seeks to resolve the non physical in physical terms.
It is an error to refer to these things as being "illusive". They are not. From within any one dimension reality is firm and hard. It is only when we seek to observe another dimension from our usual one that we need such terms.
Finally is the question of "truth". Truth is fluid. As we progress through the dimensions we find that what we did believe is now inadequate. Each spiritual plane has it's own set of "truths". It is essential that we recognize this and not try to define the highest planes in physical terms. This inclination, along with our current mathematical methods, will have to be set aside before higher understandings will move from matters of beliefs and faith into the area of firm knowing.
When Jesus said "the Father and I are one" and "Before ......... was, I am" he was referring specifically to the differentials which exist in the various planes of existence. There is much esoteria contained in the Bible and in most other religious texts too. This is because the minds of men, on occasion, achieve access and, for a time, suddenly realize greater truths, the truths which are a part of higher dimensions and they write about them for other men to read. Sometimes the mind will be a religious person. Sometimes the mind will be scientist. This is why I claim that our future understanding relys on the two, science and religion, merging into a new model of knowledge. Traditional science takes us back to the moment of creation and calls it the big bang. Religion takes us further back and speaks of causes. Religion knows of the higher dimensions but science will someday fully define them. There are no arguments 'tween the two but only great misunderstandings based on lack of vision.
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