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Old 03-01-2020, 03:20 PM
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Sharing couple of posts from another KS topic to describe what gives rise to maya tattva/principle. It is the 3 impurities (malas) as described in the following posts that gives rise to the maya. We can also conversely state that the maya principle causes the impurities to appear.

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Here are some comments on the first sutra that I found interesting and insightful from the text.

(Note: These paragraphs are taken from different parts of the commentary for the first sutra)

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"The independent state of consciousness is the self. It is the self of everything, because whatever exists in the world is the state of Lord Siva. So Lord Siva is found everywhere."

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"Now, if all individual beings are filled with consciousness, then where is the difference in these beings? There can be no difference. So, all individual beings are one universal being."

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"Ksemaraja talks about those aspirants who are on the path, who meditate day and night, and do not achieve anything. He says these aspirants are the same as ignorant people. This is not the real state of Siva. The real state of Siva is full realization. When full realization takes place, that is the fullness - the reality - of independent God consciousness. Until then, nothing has happened. Aspirants who practice day and night and do not achieve anything are just like ignorant worldly persons bound up in samsara. The reality of the self only exists when you are filled with the independent state of supreme God consciousness (caitanya). Until then, everything is useless and worthless.



So, there are not individual states of being, there is only the universal state of being, and that is one. This is why, in the very first verse, the author has explained that God consciousness is one in many."

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"The independent state of God consciousness is also found in the individual states of body (Sarira), breath (prana), intellect (buddhi) and void (Sunya). In the body, he is above the body. In breath, he is above the breath. In intellect, he is the super intellect. In voidness, he is full. In nothingness, he is everything. This is the reality of universal I (aham)."



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"The Vijnana Bhairava says the same thing.



In each and every being exists the independent state of God consciousness. You must find this state of God consciousness. To accomplish this, concentrate on the totality of individuality, the state of universal consciousness. If this is done, you will conquer the differentiated state of world and will be carried above the individuality of consciousness. (Vijnana Bhairava 100)"



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"Ksemaraja now gives another exposition of this first sutra. He says that, in the verse, the word atma means "form." Thus the meaning is: "This supreme independent state of God consciousness (caitanya) is the form." But the author has not revealed whose form. He simply says that this supreme independent state of God consciousness is form. If it is not said whose form it is, you must conclude that this is the form of everything. So, the independent supreme state of God consciousness is the form of everything. It is the form of the nose, it is the form of the eye, it is the form of the face, it is the form of the arm, it is the form of the limbs. And even more than that: It is the form of an animal, such as a sheep; it is the form of a tree; it is the form of everything in this world."

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From the first sutra commentary, there is a discussion about the existence of ignorance that I found interesting and wanted to share before moving on to the second sutra. The conclusion: Ignorance was really non-fullness of knowledge. Yet this non-fullness of knowledge results in getting caught up with the entire worldly experience.





Does ignorance exist before realization?



"Let us examine the theory of the malas, the veils of ignorance. Where does this ignorance exist? How can we say that ignorance exists? If ignorance is removed from God consciousness, it does not exist at all. So where does it exist? If ignorance is filled with the independent state of God consciousness, then it is not ignorance at all, but fullness of God consciousness. So ignorance cannot be found. Then what is it that remains? What is left? There is only independent supreme God consciousness - which is the reality of the self.



What if, for the time being, we were to say that the veil of ignorance exists before you are realized, and that afterwards, when you are realized, it does not exist? Then, if ignorance does not exist after realization, it is the truth that it did not exist at all. Why? Because at the time of realization, the aspirant realizes and knows that ignorance does not exist at all. So that ignorance never exists. Whatever he called ignorance existed, but it was not actually ignorance; it was really non-fullness of knowledge."
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