Originally Posted by earthatic

Thanks for your post Alan

I didn't really start this thread in anticipation of debate over spiritual concepts. I started it assuming people who have experiences with these things could help with something many of us already know to be real.

If you saw this thread as an opportunity to share your views and opinions on the subject is fine, but arguing your own subjective beliefs (while thinking everyone else's logic is inferior) is a waste of time because most us have already made up our minds about these things. We don't need to prove anything to you.