but even the earth orbiting the sun is based on a belief. for instance - how do you know it does? have you experienced it - have you seen it first hand - or a video?

if you have not personally experienced it and seen it on video or understand the theory behind it - you are believing that the evidence shown to you is the truth. so its a belief again.

its just like saying the earth is not flat. because of the size of the earth - you cant see it first hand - you have to believe in theory and logic to say the earth is not flat. its a logical deduction dont get me wrong - but its all still belief. belief in evidence that someone else suggests, that you can understand and so you believe yourself, that belief held so strongly - you call it a fact. but that fact is based on belief.

saying something is a belief doesnt necessarily make it illogical or fantasy. its about understanding the human condition.