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I have had a chance to review some of Joe's other comments on this...in the first NDE, He first noted himself going through a tunnel...his Life Review took place there. Then when he arrived in the Light, he said he never wanted to leave as the feeling of being whole and at home was so intense. He also thought the White Light was God
However, his second NDE at age 39, he was met by two luminous beings, they were cover with light. He could see the White Light from a distance, the beings held him back from it. They said he could not go there this time. However, he noticed the White Light had edges...this made him think again about his first conclusion...
...he does believe that we are energy beings
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