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Old 24-01-2018, 04:52 PM
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Here's another very recent post in response to someone regarding relationships and manifestation, to sum it up.

I was trying to convey the notion that karma is built into the very foundation of our reality, and that it cannot be abrogated.
In exactly the same way, nor can your own or anyone else's free will be abrogated within our dimensional reality (i.e., the fabric of spacetime and also all higher dimensions and parallel realms).
Because karma and consciousness exist outside of (or, surround and permeate) all of these manifest realities.

Thus, core spiritual moments of growth or evolution, these core moments of lovingkindness and reconciliation...are beyond spacetime and will manifest in whatever reality regardless, unless they are attended with equanimity and lovingkindness.
Likewise, the perpetration or residual transfer of unhealed karma from other times is also beyond spacetime and will manifest regardless.

My more recent understanding is that some entanglement, too, is foundational...such as entanglement with Oneness or Isness. Most is not and is overlaid onto the foundational entanglement. And much of that overlay is the part that occurs within spacetime, allowing a place and time within which we incarnate and can work with our karma, however we've accrued it.

Thanks in advance for your time and your thoughts.
Peace & blessings
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Originally Posted by Melahin

I pondered something today about time & space, and how certain moments are caught in its "web", and they just hang there waiting to happen, waiting for that moment when you are ready to be in that exactly same space. So what you wanted to do was relax into it because it kinda already had happened. So now I am pondering if what might hold one from loving oneself completely are emotions trapped somewhere just waiting to be relived over and over in various forms until we release them and set them free, like maybe your mother didn't love you enough as a child. So maybe what we are all reaching for is emotional freedom to choose the moments we live in, and in that freedom we feel and give love in abundance, because the idea that we could ever run out of it is just... not there

Hello Melahin
Ok...very cool now we're discussing alternate realities.
What I understand in my limited apprehension is the following...
(disclaimer: who really knows? but based on smart minds theorising, tis kinda like this...)

The probabilities of all possibilities arise and collapse into the chosen reality we see all around us (in this realm) in what we call the 5th dimension. Which exists "all around" our 4-D space time reality. Just like our linear 4-D time exists "all around" our 3-D reality.

So shifting into close parallel realms (or strings) is possible and happens all the time (according to some, and I believe it's so, but it's hard to vary many of the events too much without radical change and focused consciousness from a huge proportion of the folks on earth. Lots of small local changes and odd details crop up as we move across similar realms and the occasional biggies (Mandela Effect)...but for the most part they go unnoticed. In each realm, as soon as the 5D probability collapses into an event, the other potentials are no longer available in that 4D reality. (Wacky note -- we can supposedly pick up internet info from different realms...an actual source of alternate news, LOL).

So normally if someone sees you as burdensome in our current reality (of similar realms, LOL), you can shift that somewhat as you move away and reframe things and reframe the interaction, etc. That's doable all by yourself...and to some extent, this does change reality a bit in some very concrete ways. The other(s) may then adjust somewhat to you, but their choice to let go their biases or make fundamental spiritual changes is still on them.

So, if they are mostly the same in all close parallel realms, per usual, then you relaxing into that place of love will send out love into the world and may raise all ships, but that doesn't mean any probs btwn you two (or you all) specifically are likely to be fundamentally different. Because spirituality and karma are outside all these dimensions. In other words, we are literally the sum of all our choices to date, and this is why choices other than those we have taken cease to exist in our time-bound universe (of similar realms) as soon as we take the choice. That is, we can't radically change or abrogate anyone else's free will by anything "allowed" in our dimensional reality.

Let's say you could cheat a bit and do some unallowable stuff (at for us at present) and get to the 6th dimension which is "all around" the 5th. The 6th dimension contains all possible probabilities, including all those you never chose and all those which never happened here, etc.

Let's say you could actually get off your current timeline and all the nearby similar ones...and go over to a totally different timeline existing in a different realm (including a completely different physical universe) where loads of stuff was different but earth was still there and was populated, etc.

In this totally foreign timeline which actualised in 5D over there, once you get down to 4D on earth, the Nazis won and wir sprechen Deutch but there, what a joy! your close soul person has never resented you and treats you kindly whilst you two navigate your respective lives...whether as friends, or as partners, or whatever. Apparently you two have reconciled and forgiven one another for all things past and he is already consciously living from a place of love and kindness etc...you are gobsmacked and deeply moved. Also over there, let's just say, the existence of the totalitarian regime has really highlighted the importance of these connections because they are so fundamental and thus out of reach of the regime. That has given him and most others a real boot in the rear, which focused him on getting over himself and reconciling etc.

Unfortunately, stepping back, you may realise that's a really bad trade off on human pain and suffering (LOL) and you may realise instead he just may need to employ kindness and nonjudgment HERE and with you specifically....refraining from resentment and allowing lovingkindness to grow within him. Within our current realm. A much slower process, though...perhaps lifetimes are needed. So (in my version) you decide to leave that timeline and come back to this reality and this timeline, and suck it up, LOL and support a timeline where the leading nations are not advocating totalitarianism (for the good of humanity on earth).

Another thought...maybe you and I don't exist at all in that other regime and we are rootless visitors in that realm with no fundamental attachment to the fabric of their existence -- perhaps no soul family then either as we'd ripped ourselves away to go AWOL. How weird would that be? At least we'd still have God and guides. But that's not our reality and we can't get to the 6th dimension to play around...perhaps that's a good thing and we simply need to spread more love around in this reality ...for certain I don't want to be a Nazi!

So...long story short, relaxing into the love you are is great, and somewhere, in some other realm, all this HAS already happened in one fashion or another...but that's not to say it's the answer to anyone's prayers...may be some pretty nasty stuff attached to being in another timeline that is not well aligned with this one. Maybe working on increasing the love in this timeline is just as good with less fallout, LOL...

I do think your examples of giving yourself whatever your mum or whomever didn't give you are really lovely though. We can each move into that space of love and heal the child, heal the broken heart, and the shattered spirit, etc. And we don't need to wait a moment to do so, much less lifetimes for another to acknowledge the love that we are and the love that we all deserve. For me, that is the heart of the message entirely (and thank you for that )...that, and the centrality of lovingkindness and equanimity.
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and become themselves despite all opposition.

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