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Old 21-06-2019, 07:41 AM
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I have started doing so, but I didn't really get into it because there has been a dense fog in my brain lately, causing me to not be able to think straight or put thoughts into words either...as much as I would like to..and this has been quite annoying...sort of like pulling teeth.

With the whole 'descent of the water element", this is popularised in Hindu mythology with Lord Shiva bearing the brunt of the river Ganges upon his head...and also, wearing the crescent moon (the cooling element) upon His head too.

The reason for my reluctance to post this, is that it is assumed that the masculine energies are associated with the sun, fire, heat, light etc, while the feminine energies are associated with the moon, water, coolness, dark etc...but in my experience, this is quite the opposite! It is the other way around!

According to the quote from Kashmir Shaivism which I posted in #361
it says exactly what you have just said...however, because some people miss these important links, I will post it in full here:


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Old 20-03-2017, 01:14 AM
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The Triadic Heart of Siva
From the book The Triadic Heart of Siva.


The Heart of Siva

The Heart, says Abhinavagupta, is the very Self of Siva, of Bhairava,

and of the Devi, the Goddess who is inseparable from Siva. Indeed,

the Heart is the site of their union (yamala), of their embrace (samghatta).

This abode is pure consciousness (caitanya) as well as unlimited bliss

(ananda). As consciousness the Heart is the unbounded, infinite light

(prakasa) as well as the freedom (svatantrya) and spontaneity (vimarsa)

of that light to appear in a multitude and variety of forms. The Heart,

says Abhinavagupta, is the sacred fire-pit of Bhairava.1

The Heart is the Ultimate (anuttara) which is both utterly transcendent

to (visvottirna) and yet totally immanent in (visvamaya) all created things.

It is the ultimate essence (sara). Thus, the Heart embodies the paradoxical

nature of Siva and is therefore a place of astonishment (camatkara), sheer

wonder (vismaya), and ineffable mystery. The Heart is the fullness and

unboundedness of Siva (purnatva), the plenum of being that overflows

continuously into manifestation. At the same time, it is also an inconceivable

emptiness (sunyatisunya).2 The Heart is the unbounded and

universal Self (purnahanta).

The Heart of Siva is not a static or inert absolute, however. In fact,

the non-dual Kashmir Shaiva tradition considers it to be in a state of

perpetual movement, a state of vibration (spanda)3 in which it is continuously

contracting and expanding (samkoca-vikasa), opening and closing

(unmesa-nimesa), trembling (ullasita), quivering (sphurita), throbbing,

waving, and sparkling (ucchalata). The intensity and speed of this move

ment is such that paradoxically it is simultaneously a perfect dynamic

stillness.4

The tradition states that the Heart is the enormous ocean (ambunidhi),

the ocean of light, the ocean of consciousness. The waters of consciousness

that in man are broken by countless polarizing and divisive waves (urmi)

may be easily brought to a state of dynamic stillness by the process of

immersion or absorption (samdvesa) in the Heart.
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Sorry I have had to post everything that was on that page, but my mobile phone has lost the option of cutting and pasting selected, highlighted text, without just "selecting ALL" and I am beyond frustrated trying to "reason" with what my phone WANTS to do automatically, despite any input I personally make today...I am over it and so, it will have to stay this way until I can afford to put more credit on my desktop wi-fi.

Mobile phones just are not designed for cutting and pasting, typing in a foreign language, inserting a .jpg image on this forum or looking at a page full of real estate pictures online without totally freezing up...and it is HERE where the Windows operating system has the distinct advantage over the Android one...my fault for thinking I could use a mobile phone in exactly the same way as a PC...over it!

Yes, you are right about the flipping of the Lunar/Solar principles in the Shiva/Shakti duality. It's just a guess, but maybe Shiva is Lunar/Watery/Cool, but his energy, which is Shakti, is Solar/Fiery/Hot.

Perhaps at this level, male and female make no sense any more and are actually flipped. Shakti might very well be the more masculine energy (it is Shiva's creative power after all) and Shiva the more passive, feminine one.

This is also symbolised by Shakti standing over and dancing on Shiva's body. Perhaps they enjoy a bit of Sexual Roleplay, who knows

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