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Originally Posted by Shivani Devi
A very long time ago now, I used to be a Theosophist.
I didn't go much for H.P.B, even though I could see a deep truth in some of her teachings, but not all of them and it left a lot to be desired.
I also did not like the teachings of Alice Bailey and that conditioned/manufactured 'guru', J. Krishnamurti.
I went the other way and followed Arthur Avalon (Sir John Woodroffe), Geoffrey Hodson and Manly Hall into the more esoteric side of it.
Some of us/most of us...even the 'spiritual realists' are just content to live in the world and within their own current perception of it because that is 'all there is' by their definition and by their own belief systems, they make it so and as long as they are happy, whose to say any different?
However, some of us...through our own belief systems understand there's something 'more than that' in all we can see/understand but the realists cannot and they will be the first to call it a 'delusion' or a 'fantasy' and of course they will say that because they are realists and not transcendentalists...this doesn't make it any more or less real to us, however.
What you believe is your own truth is your own 'version of things' which bears no semblance of relevance to another who may have had a contradictory experience and can honestly say "sorry, but I don't understand you" and no matter how much you try and explain it, they will still say "sorry, but I don't understand you" because there's no familiar relational framing being presented.
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How interesting !
I'm of the belief that a lot of posters don't even realise that they subscribe to Theosophist ideology or that they espouse notions that are damaging - they believe themselves aware & yet clearly they are not.
For me or as I always advise any young person - being honest with yourself has to come first.
There is a distortion of the "it's my truth" that is perpetuated by certain individuals.
They act with Malice & are subversive due to personal bias yet they will conveniently "not subscribe to labels" if called out on such behaviour. They shirk the responsibility for their actions & continue to speak untruthfully.
That is the Satanic side that we've talked about elsewhere,
spirituality is not a license to act selfishly or maliciously - to manipulate others good traits.
I'll see these people on the forum slowly introduce dangerous practices or doctrines & champion their merits but claiming no responsibility inside themselves for essentially telling lies.
Rare people such as yourself really have studied & treated the spiritual path as a serious look within & without. Contemplated opposing viewpoints & took risks looking for answers.
Others merely cheat by throwing around buzz words & convincing themselves they are in the exact same category.
I can be quite curt at times which the honest folks on here find offensive, the charlatans & perpetrators of untruths
really hate it so it must have its place in conversion at times.
We can all be misguided at times, but those being false act as a distraction to genuine seekers.