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Old 14-12-2017, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ab Origine
Hi Folks..

Mickiel; Hmm - the god you invison - Yhvh the bible god - that one is not the Father that Christ alone reveals... I see you have a critical thiking, open mind - so please - best advise would be to read the ORIGINAL disciple scriptures for this truth for your Self - see Christ explain literally EVERYTHING in great open detail - including the origins of that so called god of the Hebrews.... He makes it abundantly clear - two entirely separate spiritual paradigms - the true Divine, realm of Trinity Creation, Our Father Christ and Sophia as He explains it, came forth first and created all else in Divine Union - and this lesser mortal realm where Yhvh the Angel rules supreme, created by accident by Sophia alone and hidden on purpose to conceal Her mistake..

That one Yhvh honestly, could not care less about us now - perhaps not ever.... truth here is it ABANDONED US outright - just after it tried to DESTROY US in that flood !!! That was the catalyst that decreed the timing for the arrival of the Christ... Yhvh went too far - the Divine would not allow our destruction, so CHRIST interceded DIRECTLY at that point, having known all along that it would be necessary and having already prepared the path to here....

Basically as said - it starts two entirely separate realms... The true Divine COMPLETELY UNKNOWN - Yhvh HERE this realm, creating away, many heavens MANY Angels, but no mankind YET, though it seems the Earth is formed first before us (genesis is very contradictory) but anyway at first - two separate ANGELIC spiritual realms, completely isolated..

In the High realm of the Trinity - comes forth the "perfect Human" - ADAMUS - Christ said this was so awesome it affected ALL CREATION, even this hidden part here - all the Angels become DIRECTLY aware, Mind to Mind Spirit to Spirit - they witness the Divine as this Creation is "announced" and called forth.... Crucially now, they ALL KNOW, Yhvh their "god" is NOT A GOD after all !!

Some begin to question his authority..."Lucifer" we are told, wishes to RISE ABOVE and for this a rebellion begins...Rise above..?/...The Angels wanted to KOW DIVINE TRUTH that they all had witnessed but which Yhvh FORBIDS them to investigate !! Hence, some just openly rebel and say we ARE going to see what that power is !!! So his troubles begin..

To stop this calamity, Yhvh gathers them all together, and says basically let us create something like that above, Adamus - a being MADE IN the IMAGE of that Divine realm - then it can give us "praise and worship" and we will truly be gods !! So together as said they pool their creative talent and fashion the SPIRITUAL part of mankind and form a PHYSICAL VESSEL to plalce it inside of... These new Souls are placed in a lower layer of THIS realm - in between Yhvhs abode and this layer we call "solid" (all realms have seven primary layers) - at first we exist in spiritual form alone - EDEN - an ASTRAL state ,semi physical and able to CROSS from one layer to the next with great ease...CRUCIAL, let it sink in Folks..

When mankind first comes to the Earth , physical layer, it does NOT ihabit the body as we do now...At first it is more like a "remote control" - or an astral projectin down to the physical just as many here try to project UP to the spiritual.. At first in Eden our original Being, the Soul remains in spirit with a kind of telepathic control over the material body - but the Soul did not "indwell" the body fully as we mortals do now.. This is why every Soul incarnates and in that life the person has a deep fully intuitive knowing that there IS a god, a spirit - even the most hard nosed atheist who denies the spirit all their life, will turn and pray to this god as their death approaches - we KNOW INHERANTLY that we ARE spirit and this truth never leaves us, dispite Yhvhs chicanery (as we shall see)..!!

So ADAMUS is created - trouble starts for Yhvh - angels begin to rebel - he gets them all to create US - kind of like a pet - an amusement - so they can "play god" and have us adore and worship them - except Yhvh is petty minded - doesn't want to share and soon realises that he is being drained of his ability with every Sentient Soul he creates.... So jealous, guarding his power, he first forbids any and all exploration of that new realm...NO you CAN NOT rise above me it bellows.. IAM GOD you will have NO OTHER BEFORE ME !!! said to its own ANGELs first Folks - repeated to mortals much later... Next we get created as said and for a while it seems all is well - except the rebels aren't satisfied - THEY are forbidden to explore the High realm - but look WE are not forbidden !!

So, they come to us, Eden - TEACH US HOW - give us TRUTH - knowledge of "good and evil" - and basically ask US to go ascend to the Divine to see what IS Divine truth !! Yhvh find out - banishes the rebel Angels - has a panic attack about us mortals becoming gods and so banishes US as well !!

He ALTERED OUR FORMS - first made the Soul indwell the body fully, here on the mortal Earth - then altered the subtle energetic connection - astral - chakras and Kundalini - Yhvh placed two "knots" into this energy system which prohibits it from working efficiently - hence this system must be mended first for spiritual progress to truly begin.. ALL religions of the world know this basic truth for this inner energetic system is very VERY real, universal natural phenomena - our very essential nature and our ORIGINAL state of Being... They have named this system many many ways of course depending on the culture - but it is best understood as Kundalini, and no, despite what the deluded poster is about to say, it is NOT demonic at all..lol

(though it may put you in direct contact with spiritual Beings of all types, as it gives the ability to cross spiritual realms, hence yhvh forbids its truth t us, with held that promise as yhvh cannot allow us t transcend his realm)

So he trapped us ALL here - mortal man now fully indwelling this physical form with literal LOCKS on the system to prevent our escape.. And look - Angels -fallen you call them - trapped here among us also - now MORTAL - now finite perishable and about to "die", same as we all do here !!!

So they don't want that - they want to go Home - and above - to know the Divine...So they PUSH MANKIND, teach us EVERYTHING literally they civilise us, lead us, and before long we are ALMOST ready - except Yhvh has another panic attack and that great FLOOD wipes us all out (nearly)... BEST THING EVER that he did for us !!! Turns out that was the final straw - Christ came DIRECTLY to intercede - didn't even approach yhvh at all - juts passed it by as He advises us t do also..lol...Went to some of the Angels though - told them of His plan for mankind - they in turn passéd it on to those if us with ears to hear - and so eventually HE will walk among us and Yhvh does NOTHING to prevent any of it..

Still jealous and petty, after the flood, mankind survived and prospered despite his attempt to utterly anhialate us.. mankind had ONE SINGLE SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING - one WISDOM that all knew freely - one language, one prime drive to ASCEND the mortal realm - the tower of Babel event.... Yhvh stepped in to scatter us, confound our language and SEPERATE us one nation from another... The Angels HERE began to mortally die - their Soul now free to roam THIS realm but trapped here without even a body to interact with - a ghost like wraith - these are the true demons - djinn... So begins a terrible time in our hstory...

These demons, deceased trapped Angels - spiritually powerful and adept -began to influence mankind to perversion of all kinds -they needed to create a new BOSY FORM to house their Soul....Thye became very bitter, tisted, hatred drove them in that state and they soon turned that hatred upon mankind.... NAtion set on nation -war - all manner of calamity -where once they led us to ascend, now they used us for personal gai...TRAPPED HERE in limbo, they perished one afte the other until all were demonic...THYE have influienced ALL MANKINDS HISTORY - ALL OF US SUFFERING at the hands of those Souls once Angels, forced here by that "god " yhvh and LITERALLY left to ROT - as we are to !!!!

THEY cannot leave -WE cannot leave -THIS IS HELL !! This is why Christ came -to teach us TRUTH that would free us from all this...Yhvh..??..as said ABANDNED US....Did that flood - scattered the decendants - then finally - REPENTED - encountered the TRUE Divine directly for it self - was embraced and loved BY the Divine - FORGIVEN - Christ just assumed the authority and did what needed to be done - Yhvh told its last prophet Malachi that it would then be SILENT forever more would not speak directly again and they should watch for the Christ..!! That was like 400 years BEFORE Christ and that one Yhvh HAS been indeed SILENT ever since...

Yes I know it started yet another "religion " after all this - Islam - hundreds of years later - same god sae angels same prophets even - but look again Folks - it is an ANGEL that delivers the Islamic truth, not the god Yhvh directly as it did to Moses - it is GABRIEL says he is from yhvh but Yhvh itself - SILENT !! That is because it HAS abandoned us just as it said - CHRIST is the sole Divine authority here...


I agree with some of your beliefs, and disagree with others. Its interesting how our beliefs mix and gel with others, and I can even see and understand what I disagree with. In example, in my way of understanding there is no Trinity. I believe the Father is a God, the Son, Jesus may be " A God" but he is not God. I don't know just what the Holy Spirit is. I do believe it is God who destroys, but he will not destroy our future with him. I do not see a Character in scripture called " Sophia." God did not " Banish Angels" for being evil, he created those who are evil to be evil.

Peace.
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