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Originally Posted by jonesboy
None of the famous teachers that I have seen are what I would consider enlightened.
To me the true Dharma is the light. When one has realized the light they can share that light by their presence alone.
Not talking about empowerments either.
There are some advanced guys but not any real stuff going on. Just lots of talk.
Not even Dzogchen Master Norbu claims to be liberated.
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" There are some advanced guys but not any real stuff going on."
How are you personally able to judge these ' advanced guys ' against real stuff, what is real stuff?