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Old 05-08-2019, 07:22 PM
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What if “individual consciousness” never arose? What if there was just the absence of any observer from the very beginning (complete void and blackness)? Could nonduality even be posited or be true?

Individual Consciousness arises within Absolute Consciousness. Without Individual Consciousness, there can be no reference to Absolute Consciousness.

- therefore ; "If" individual consciousness never arose, there would be no "Reality" to compare anything else within.

- "If" individual consciousness never arose, the Divinity of "Self-Realization" could not exist to present such a question.

- therefore ; "In the absence of any observer from the beginning" means to preclude the Divinity from attempting self awareness; ergo: Divinity/ Absolute Intelligence/ Intelligent Design would not exist either, nor "in the first place" to pose a question of self expression.

- However; when individual consciousness no longer is "arisen", then Absolute Consciousness would still persist - and definitely in a manner without any and all nondualistic attributes.

(at the risk of sounding religious : "within the infinity of God, all opposites are combined". For the devout of this world, God is "The Infinite". Regardless the religious persuasion though, it is accepted that all things originate from that which would be the personal description individually held of God. As we conceptualize God, the common denominator is that God includes and involves all that is "infinite"; an infinite, which, by its nature is not limited to any singular conceptualization of it. (parahrasing what Nicolus du Cosa said)

"When Yahweh created the world from his prima materia, the 'Void,' he could not help breathing his own mystery into the Creation which is himself in every part, as every reasonable theology has long been convinced. From this comes the belief that it is possible to know God from his Creation. When I say that he could not help doing this, I do not imply any limitation of his omnipotence; on the contrary, it is an acknowledgment that all possibilities are contained in him, and that there are in consequence no other possibilities than those which express him." (Carl Gustav Jung)

Summary : to preclude "individual consciousness" is the same as precluding "Absolute Consciousness". Because of the two "perceptions," duality must exist by nature of it being associated to one who perceives or the other one. When only one (who perceives) exists, then dualism does not...

Guess which one is the "persistent" perceiver.
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