I think we are talking about the same thing and have also this here no about raising the vibrations and find the idea of ascension disturbing. I have found comfort in the Chthonic with that talks about everything exist within, so we have to descent into the depth of ourself in order to expand our reality instead of trying to reach someplace we are not, some higher worldly heaven. The heaven in my view already exist within ourselves, within Earth. It is not some far away place almost impossible to reach taking infinite amount of incarnations to reach. All year I have found it troubling how people send their light energies away from Earth and themselves towards god, heaven and angels, when in the Chthonic view the gods, heaven and so lies within Earth. It is from within Earth the riches comes, it is from there in the darkness of the soil the seed is nurtured before it blossoms into the light Sorry it seems this subject have hit my rambling button