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Old 25-11-2019, 12:04 AM
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Further to our PMs discussing Sudda Saiva Siddhanta.

I will give a public apology right here in regards to tossing a blanket over Saiva Siddhanta in regards to the Samkhya philosophy without acknowledging Rishi Tirumular and the Advaita Siddhanta movement which Handy Guy reminded me about via PM.

I made a post about that exact thing in the Non Duality forum about a year ago and I share it here:

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...6&postcount=38

In that post, I referenced the Advaita Schools of Saiva Siddhanta and I included a beautiful treatise on it that I would love to share with everyone:

https://chestofbooks.com/new-age/spi...Siddhanta.html

https://chestofbooks.com/new-age/spi...ta-Part-2.html

https://chestofbooks.com/new-age/spi...ta-Part-3.html

There are quite a few parts to that...it is actually a whole book that Handy Guy and others will enjoy reading imo.

*Although, from the way Advaita is being described in that book, it still comes across as sounding like Vishishtadvaita or qualified monism to myself personally because they cannot seem to get around the "hard problem" of awareness through association:

Quote:
"God is one with them, and different."

And Saint Arunandi Sivacharya adds another relation, 'one and-different.' Here then is involved 'Abheda,' 'Bheda,' and 'Bhedabheda' relations. But other schools postulate one or other of these relations, and the similes used are 'gold and ornament' to denote the Abheda relation, 'darkness and light,' to denote Bheda relation, and 'word and meaning' to denote the Bhedabheda relation. And there can be no reconciliation between these views, and no meeting place between them. The Siddhanta postulates all these different relations, but by other similes, such as body and soul to denote Abheda, eye and the sun to denote Bheda, soul and the eye to denote Bhedabheda, as set forth above in the stanza quoted from Saint Umapati-Sivacharya, and yet so as not to be contradictory, there must therefore be something peculiar in this view which makes it possible to admit all of these different relationships or aspects, and yet not to be self-contradictory to appear as one harmonious whole. And it is this peculiar relation which cannot be easily defined or described, that is denoted by the word 'Advaita.'

So, again, I apologise for taking the purely academic approach and omitting a very important school of thought in the process and thank Handy Guy for refreshing my memory.

By the way, please forgive all the advertisements in that book...if I see another picture of an anus, I will go nuts...

Aum Namah Shivaya

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