[Jyotir]

Originally Posted by BlueSky

Thank you for your response. It's interesting you mention hopefully things are progressing, the thing is progress is dependent on a goal and measured accordingly.

Hello BlueSky,

I mention ‘hopefully’ because practitioners - especially the ‘freelance’ type who operate outside of traditional formalized programs, which will become more prominent in the coming decades - may construe those components in different and sometimes regressive ways because of the pervasive familiarity of ignorant constructs. However…

An important principle to consider, and those genuinely conversant with Buddhism (and not just discussion website amateur theoreticians!), would be able to say whether this is legitimately part of Buddhism and delineated within the formal teaching or not… that being that:

‘progress’, ‘goal’, and ‘measure’ in the context you are using it,
are all simply different component aspects of Truth
as relatively manifested in the individuated being.

Therefore, it is not entirely accurate, or more accurately - not especially useful - to comparatively juxtapose the relativities of ‘progress’, ‘goal’ and ‘measure’ as any one dependent on the other. It just appears that way.

Rather, notably and profoundly, everything is dependent on that Truth (even Ignorance). Which is why, the most pwerful force in spirituality is the emerging aspiration, which as a dynamic aspect of truth in the being, when recognized and employed consciously, renders realization or enlightenment as inevitable - because it is itself the emergent/emerging form of that enlightenment.

This goes back to some of the original points Gem made in his OP.


~ J