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Originally Posted by Lorelyen

Interesting.

However, tired as the stories may be, it's a boon* that people can come here with their successes and failures to talk. The forum comes with a certain anonymity in that people don't have to reveal their "birth certificate" names so those with their stories can pour out to "strangers with some level of sympathy and understanding," which may be a lot easier than talking to so-called friends.

Sometimes they get good advice from both sides.

But I do agree that the label "twin flames" is unfortunate. All versions of the theory come with a dogma that can be so constricting, whether things work out or not. I try to imagine what it must be like for a guy living a reasonable everyday life, not particularly spiritual or religious and can understand why they're suspicious or not interested. Getting them on the twin flame current (unless they're there hanging about waiting for the moment) must be frightening. Think of it: "The universe (i.e. god) demands...this and that... You must stay spiritually married to me for eternity!" Were I a guy I'd say, "On yer bike! God's finger was pointing at the wrong person. It isn't me!"

Is the label necessary at all? I look at many long term happy relationships where it's pretty obvious the people are (figuratively) one soul in two bodies (which I see different from two separate bodies each with a part soul). All metaphorical anyway. These are people who are mutually appreciative; both contribute much to each other's lives, call it spiritual if you want but it also happens on the mundane - they've carved roles for each other, can be relied upon and trusted enough that trust no longer comes into it; and the very first reaction of both in a crisis is support. They are inseparable. In terms of this forum, they are of one spirituality.

To me they are the twin flames, not those living in anxiety and hanging around half a lifetime on the strength of some diktat they picked up on the web.

*boon, not Mills & Boon.

Bests....

As always Lorelyen your "booning" along nicely with your views and ideas.

I think I spoke on another thread about labels and how humans apply them in all manner of ways to understand, create and make sense of things that life presents to them and you shared your view on this too. The term "twin flame" seems to correlate to a common theme, consisting of a few things, missing something to the point where you cant sleep or eat, cant live a normal life, because the yearning to be with them is overwhelmingly intense and desirable within you. It almost consumes people and they cant think about anything else. The other thing, is the nature of our spirit body and merging with source than many talk about when they 'go home'. Passing through the tunnel of light and NDE's that visit other realms, share ideas about that completeness and feeling of one with love or everything becomes clear, through this means of understanding themselves. Often times when they come back into the body to continue on with this experience, they tend to take on a deeper spiritual purpose of their life in some way, that begins to give more meaning to their life and self, they drop things that are no longer seen as important to them, they forge a path that is 'connected' more deeply in them.

Another aspect is that recently someone said to me. "People think their is another half of themselves on this earth to find, but they will never find it, because its in the spirit realm". It was in an email to me so I didn't get a chance to go back and ask what they meant. Knowing this person, I suspect he means the source of completeness we find when we go home into that space of awareness, much like NDE's do. I am not entirely sure but I will ask him next time I am speaking to him.

I do recall, when my brother was dying and going through his process of opening and letting go, he wrote a poem about himself merging with the wheel of source where everything just fell into love, nothing within him was left untouched by love. I suspected when reading it was where he was heading but his poem was tapping into it before he arrived to that place. Where his human suffering and emptiness of his human life experience, fell away completely. I think we each carry this awareness through the streams of our lives, coming and going and coming back again. It makes sense we are in some yearning ourselves as source. The space where we no longer feel separate from ourselves, not just logically and through the minds knowing, but as a whole body experience.

This through my observations and place I reside in as of now, seems to resonate more with my own awareness and feelings and how coming full circle as this life experience, can awaken the call to find yourself more deeply through those more intense "remembering, "Love streams" you may have been involved with in one's many lives. All this coming into a bigger culmination that you are the one your seeking and no doubt if you find yourself as your own true love, true love follows you. You become the reflection of that wheel of love, that you are. If your lucky to find that true love companion who fits you perfectly as that love, then I suspect that is what many of these deeper soul connections become. The remembering of themselves through their companion and if its a stream of love through many lives, it will be deep in this life and hard to be apart.

I read somewhere once that twin flames are the most difficult partnership to work with, its very hard work, perhaps they open the soul deeper to let go and connect deeper to yourself, where as a soul mate is like your best friend, where you are very similar and dance the same way, share much in common, they see the world like you and they feel the same about things like you feel. So one perhaps teaches sameness more readily and the other much more about differences. I can see why the soul mate loss would leave a lot of people empty if they were relying on their other half to complete them in some way. To lose a companion of this nature to death when you share so much together in that sameness, would activate much of what hasn't been recovered of themselves as their own completeness, as well as losing their best friend and companion in this life, where they have shared so much together. The passing rather quickly after one leaves, perhaps serves them both at the soul level to remain connected more through the love stream of their lifetime, rather than their loss in other lives.


The potential through these many streams is to build our own individuation and the interconnectedness of all life, so even as one may be the stirring of much within us, the potential from those seeds holds much through the process of all life when we connect to all life.