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Old 28-06-2017, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jro5139
"Like attracts like with people".. I only agree with that to a certain extent. The people that I choose to be around, my friends, tend to be the most like- minded to me. But the people that I get stuck with (lol) like family, co- workers, neighbors, etc.. tend to, at times, have great differences. What I have noticed is those differences usually lead to important lessons. If everyone was exactly like you, what would you learn from that? So I would say, those differences are there for a reason.

If worrying attracted more worrying than that, to me, sounds like a punishment. Particularly because a lot of worry is just a human reaction. And some stuff, naturally you are going to worry about. For example, if you got fired and had unpaid bills... of course you are going to worry to some extent. Or a better example, if your child became ill, of course, you are going to worry. I don't believe any universe or God is going to punish us for worrying about stuff that it is perfectly natural to worry about.
Of course, you may do affirmations or pray or whatever you do towards the said problem and maybe that would ease your mind some, but depending on the problem, you may still have some level of worry.

I think an issue with the loa may be that it is a bit too simplified. To just say "like attracts like (period)" doesn't explain the course of life to me. Than if you say "but I still have problems" the answer is that your vibration is too low, that's always the answer given even though they don't know what your vibration is. Personally, I had a major vibration raise and it's stayed relatively high since, however, I still have problems. But if I bring that up, the answer is always "your vibration is too low".

So I think there is something to positive thinking to a certain extent. But I don't think it is going to solve everything or every problem that comes along, and then, there is some stuff that seems like it's just meant to happen a certain way. The loa doesn't allow for that though, because according to loa, we control everything by what we think, so there is no other intervention or interference going on.

I agree here with very much of what you wrote here jro, and also would like to expand on some of this if I may.

I agree very much with what you wrote here on more difficult relationships, family, co-workers and yes even partners. Personally my greatest most loyal family and friendships are with those who I do not always completely get on with 100 percent. We argue, we yell at eachother we get irritated by each others personalities, and I wouldn't Change This For The World! I have learned so very much about myself and others, and especially dealing with others from relationships of any type where the personalities are incredibly different. I cherish these differences. While I have some like minded individuals whom are friends, and I indeed can learn much from them as well, I find my most difficult relationships can be most profound.

What you said about worrying and attracting worry to seem a punishment- yes you have a very valid point, however what are we really doing when we sit and dwell and worry? We are in a state of worrying when we should be in a place that yes we should never feel guilty about worrying as it is truly natural but also we must not stay in a rut of worry- but we must act. Because we do indeed have to tackle the problem, we think clearer when in action when we are in a state of optimism, like was said here, as it gives us our very own strength and means of support that stems from our own refusal to think negatively, but to choose (Yes it is a choice) to adopt a more positive, action geared and supportive (from self) way of thinking. But yes I agree here as well, we should not as human beings ever condemn ourselves for worrying or any other negative emotion really. Then we come from a place of self love, and healthy respect, when we do not condemn and judge ourselves. I believe the same as you, in a God who would never condemn any species for something which is natural to them, or for anything really.

Yes I hear you entirely on the "You must raise your vibrations" comments most arbitrarily thrown around. To you all here I am a perfect stranger. My vibrations are high enough as far as I am concerned and I know this to be true because I can not fathom how anyone could portray to know or rather assume how spiritual one is, having knowing not thing one about them.

When I see these comments directed at myself and others, I simply scroll by them most often. They to me are indeed irrelevant and roll right off my back, because as a common sense individual, I realize no one here or elsewhere actually knows how spiritual others are, whether myself or others.

I find it incredibly disrespectful at times, many assume as opposed to honestly ask the person how they feel about the subject.

I do hold faith that yes like attracts like, I hold to many beliefs. It is difficult to find people who understand me, as I am incredibly open minded and give many concepts and faiths a chance. I am the type to factor that indeed nothing is impossible unto me or any other- it becomes impossible when we doubt, when we criticize, when we point and laugh. I have witnessed many an incredible thing happen throughout my years, based on sheer faith and will alone.

So I do believe like attracts like. I know for fact us as human beings have problems- I view problems as a way of testing my own strength and a obvious call to action, and to go about to solve them- with yes optimism.
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