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Originally Posted by Quintessence
it isn't important, isn't valid, or doesn't exist." An honest scientist won't say that; they'll recognize that materialism is one of the limits of the scientific method. It's why science can't disprove something like the existence of the Christian god or many other metaphysical claims. It irritates me when folks say that it can.
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Yea, this is the problem. Making assumptions & filling gaps in knowledge with illusions of knowledge. Fair enough to say that science understands about 7% of how the 'physical' Universe/World works; & that it contains useful models about reality - But to mistake it for reality; or that it explains reality; is a grave mistake.
This is worth a listen to -
Science's First Mistake - Professor Ian Angell -
http://vimeo.com/24014769
Also some interesting discussion here - '
Les Lancaster: "Psychology and Mysticism: Refining our Maps of Mind' -
http://spiritualcrisisnetwork.org.uk/innerjourneys/
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There are a few instances where science can deal with "immaterial" things, particularly in the soft sciences. They're soft for exactly that reason; they make more assumptions about things and more frequently run into the problem of falsifiability. For instance, Freud's ideas about the id, ego, and superego are fantastic, but they can't be proven false. It's a useful way of understanding human psychology, but it's not the only way we can think about it (as evidenced by the many other major branches of thought about human personality).
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There has been those that have created a complete cartography of the psyche - Jung probably being about the most well known.
Science has done the same with the brain - But the notions & models of the physical brain by science are really no less of a guess. As an example; look deeper at the theories of the Dopaminergic system & neocortex - All we really have is models, theories & approximations. Science pretends to have concrete answers - it doesn't. Useful models maybe; but not concrete facts. The danger is when science is stated as indisputable fact/reality.
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Social sciences are great. They remind me in many ways of working with the occult. You create a paradigm - a map - and use it to interpret the territory. You understand the map isn't the territory, but the map can be very useful for certain purposes.
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Yes - very much so.