[Ewwerrin]

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Q: A nail in the sky.
A: Yeah.
Q: (inaudible)
A: Nothing wrong with that....
But it can appear, people seem to, "people" seem to respond to this in very different ways...

Q: But is not the absolute self aware of itself?
A: Who would who, how could it do that?
Q: If it's, if it's the absolute, woulden't it have the ability to observe itself?
A: Well, I mean, with the, you're saying the absolute has some sort of intelligence beyond the appearance of everything.
Q: Well..
A: Yeah, but it doesn't.
Q: If it is, should be able to observe itself.
A: But you're saying it has an intelligence beyond the appearance everything, which means that, with its intelligence, it could seperate itself from itself, to be aware of itself. As tho there would be some sort of need for that.
It's already everything and there's no need to be aware of itself.
And nobody is ever aware of the absolute.
Q: (inaudible) not saying the absolute being aware of itself.
A: But all there is is the absolute.
Q: So doesn't it have self aware capability.
A: Well, how would it do that if it's already everything? There is no real distance or time, for it to do that.
Knowing is dream.
(laughter)

Q: It's (inaudible) like saying itself, automatically divide (inaudible) as soon as you say "know itself" seperates it.
A: Hmm.
Q: It coulden't be (inaudible)
A: Right.
Q: (inaudible) it's everything.

Q: So what's, what created the (inaudible)
A: Nothing. It's not created.
Q: (inaudible) love created.
A: It's not created. This isn't coming from anywhere.
This is everything. This is absolute freedom.
Appearing as a question. Appearing as movement. Appearing as this.
That's it. That's All there is. There is nothing else, except what's looked for.

Q: You know I experienced that, while you're saying it.
A: Yeah. That's the energy we're talking about.
And you don't know that.
(laughter)
You don't know that when you leave it will be different.
You don't know that.
Q: Yeah.
A: You don't know anything. There is no you.

Q: You use the word "This" allot.
A: Yeah.
Q: Is there any possibility at all of describing what you mean. It's.
A: Yeah.
Q: It's everything.
A: Spacious aliveness
Q: Thank you.

Q: Sounds like fun.
A: Oowww.
(laughter)
A: Ahaah! It's everything. It's fun, suffering, sadness, joy, bliss, depression.
It's everything. It has no need not to be anything.
It's not going anywhere.
It's the experience that this needs to go somewhere, this needs to become something, that makes what seems to be happening right or wrong, good or bad.
When it's not going anywhere, that falls away. It's just what seems to be happening.
And really get away with, ge ge, stop with "seems to" and just say "there's only happening."
Happening. Body happening (points at self). Pictures happening (pointing at painting). Body happening (pointing at questioner). Table happening (pointing at table).
There's just happening. There's just happening.
And that happening, is everything. It's all there is.
The individual puts happening in relationship to itself, and so there then is something else. And that something else is what seems to be missing, in this happening.
When that "something else" falls away, never was something else, there's only what's happening.
Which is obviously complete. Obviously whole. Obviously everything.
Not in the sense that I become something, that I get something, but in the sense that there's no longer any need for it to be anything else.

Q: So you use, use of the word "Everything" does not restrict it to the physical "this" or it's...
A: Well, it's anything. Can we say anything?
Q: ok
A: yeah? This is anything. All there is is anything.
(laughter)
Q: It doesn't put a limit to this
A: Yeah.
Q: yeah.
A: yeah, that's right.

Q: Would it be a mistake to describe the message more akin to existentialism than nonduality? Cause in nonduality
A: No.
Q: (inaudible) I am.
A: Well, I mean. Pfff... Non duality means not two. Where is the "I am" in "not two"?
How do you have an "I am" in "not two"?
"I am" (lifts left finger) and then something else (lifts right finger).
How do you do that?
Even if you say, "I am everything". Then "I am" doesn't make sense anymore.
So how can you have "I am", if what we're talking about is nonduality.
And existentialism is sort of materialism. And this isn't material. There is no actual thing. There is no solidity.
Q: Yeah thats where I'm stuck, because I'm interpreting the message
A: Well she was too. She was pointed out correctly, "This", as tho all that there is is the senses.
All that there is is what the senses are reporting.
Q: (inaudible) body
A: Exactly. But its emptiness bodying. So it's beyond the concepts of exten of mater, extential, what were we talking about?
Q: Existential
A: Existentialism yeah.

Q: Beyond the concepts of anything.
A: totally.
Q: It coulden't be out into words.
A: Totally.
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