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Originally Posted by Gem
I'm pretty sure it is correct, but not because I say so.
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The Buddha delivered the discourse to an assembly of monks at Kammassadharma, a market town of the Kuru people in northwest India near modern Delhi.
It seems likely that he discussed practices mentioned in the sutra many times in other places during his forty-five year teaching career.
Three early versions are known. What is considered the primary sutra is the Pali Satipatthana Sutta (number 10 in the Majjhiman Nikaya) and Mahasatipatthana Sutta (number 20 in the Digha Nikaya), which are exactly the same, except the latter has added text at the end on the Four Noble Truths (these are the short and long Pali forms).
Either one or the other of these texts is considered Version One of the three available versions and possibly the discourse delivered by the Buddha at Kammassadharma; it is said to have been first written down on palm leafs in Sri Lanka in c.100 BCE.
http://mnzencenter.org/pdf/MindfulnessSutra.pdf
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Maha indicates "Greater" or Extended - it is used commonly in Buddhist sutra titles.
The Maha Sattipatthana Sutra is essentially the same as the Sattipatthana Sutra - it is an extended version with the Four Noble Truths appended. Both reference the Buddha's sermon (as also described above).
Neither version is philosophical (which is very obvious), the Sutra is a practice guide laid out by the Buddha and used extensively in the Theravadan School of Buddhism.
The Maha-satipatthana is in the Digha Nakaya series and the Satipatthana listed in the Majjhima Nikaya - you can see here the words are the same. Some versions use more commentary and extended elaboration but the essence remains the same.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipi...22.0.than.html
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipi....010.than.html
(The Maha has the Four Noble Truths appended, as said to you multiple times.)
Both are eminently practice based, and not philosophical by any means.
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Thanissaro Bhikkhu's own footnote on the Satipatthana Sutra:
For an elaboration on the four noble truths see DN 22 (Maha-Satipatthana Sutra), which is otherwise identical to this sutta.
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Feel free to pivot
"woolly in the woods" style
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Originally Posted by Gem
Well, I'm just some guy on the internet who does a bit of meditation. Nothing special going on here.
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Not only that, but with quite a few misinterpretations of Buddhist practice and results - in other threads you have argued that there is no reason to believe the teachings and care little for the tradition of Buddhism.
I will say (once again
) that the funny thing about the teachings is the experiential
outcomes are the same for the Buddhist Masters/Adepts (sort of like martial arts mastery) - and this is where you differ.
It's an interesting proposition - of course everyone uses discernment and tries things for themselves. This is the whole basis of this religion. Buddhism is not labored with intense belief systems and this is the way Gautama set out his teachings so there is no contradiction with self-determination, discernment, and Buddhist practice/faith. "Know for yourself" "Cessation of dukkha in this lifetime" - this is Gautama's kind invitation to anyone.
However, just as in martial arts, the instructions are there, as is the experiential outcome. Just because a person can't break the brick in half, it doesn't mean that the teachings are not reliable or that listening to Bruce Lee's instructions and standards is incorrect - it just means the student is wherever they are, which is all good, but still not at the Mastery level.
In Buddhism, the depths are significantly more nuanced, and as always nibbana, enlightenment and true inner peace (not conditioned/conditional) is the standard.
Still, respect worthy for the practice.
Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu.
BT