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Old 11-07-2011, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by seahorse
I'd like to offer a different perspective..why must we accept the Bible, the Torah, any ancient text and not Gnostic texts such as the Gospel of Judas? The fact that many people believe (or forced to believe in Christianity) doesn't guarantee it's correct. I look at God's creation, Nature and see Logic everywhere except humans. Bible says God created us in his own image. The God is not perfect. And if he is allmighty indeed, why didn't He make us perfect in the first place ? Why did He created Satan (a name nowhere to be found in the BIble) didn't He know he would betray Him ? It doesn't make sense, and the Church could never provide a satisfactory answer except "God works in mysterious ways". I can think of an alternative theory : There was indeed a battle in Heaven. Good versus Evil. And you know? God lost. What we experience is a universe made by the Deceiver, giving us false hope because he get his kicks watching us struggle in vain all our lives believing in false salvation, stumble and fall, get up again believing in his lies. He even sends his demons disguised as angels to give us courage so we don't give up and spoil his party....a theory but we can't prove it's wrong....right ?

Sea,

I appreciate your jumping in to comment, but I think your comments might best be posted on a different sub-forum. Not that the Judaism sub-forum is limited only to Jews, but you raise questions that have no meaning in Judaism. The Gnostic gospels, as well as other Gnostic writings, are a Christian concern. Jews have no horse in the race, so to speak, in regard to what writings were made part of the Christian canon.
There is no concept of a demiurge in Judaism.

Although the idea of fallen angels gained some currency in Judaism during the second Temple period, witness for example the Book of Enoch, that idea was more a part of folk religion than an accepted part of mainstream Judaism. In other words, Satan is the job title of an angel whose responsibility is, as some put it, to act as the heavenly prosecutor. It is not that G-d did not know that the Satan would betray Him. There was no betrayal.

You also posit that G-d is not perfect since Torah says we are made in the image and likeness of G-d and we are not perfect. You also ask if G-d is almighty how come He did not make us perfect. First you are making a presumption that being made in the image and likeness of G-d means that we are in every respect like G-d. Second, you are presuming that G-d meant to create us as perfect, but somehow blew it. I don't why you are presuming either.

B'shalom,

Peter
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