Jesus was only Jesus when he became born a mortal. Made lower than the angels while on earth( Heb 2:7-9) The age old question--Who is Jesus in the OT? Some say Jesus is YHWH, some say he was not. Was he not always 2nd in command? Yes. Did not Yhwh create all other things through him? Yes, Making him Gods master worker of Proverbs 8-- The being who came to earth as Jesus speaks at Prov 8--The He mentioned by that being is God--The speaker is not. It teaches how painful it was for God to create him direct, as a pangs of a woman in labor it says. ( God) Became especially fond of me. And the rest makes it no doubt it is the being who became Jesus as a mortal. Making the following statement truth
Let us( YHWH(Jehovah) and his master worker) make man in our image.
All evidence points to Michael.