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Old 30-03-2018, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by davidsun
You would have to be 'me' to do so!


No, I am speaking of thoughtfully considering, contemplating and savoring (eating and digesting?) every 'fruit' one experienced while monkeying (monkeys are very intelligent, you know!) on the Trees in the Forest of Life. There is much awareness (and consequent love and enjoyment) of "self" and "life's meaning' to be garnered and shared thereby.


There moving (linearly) from "A" to "Z" through the Forest along some path or other, and then there's ascending to higher and higher levels, where the sun shines 'most' and the 'best' fruit are, in the canopy - all by way of 'experiencing' (and learning from, i.e. intelligently 'incorporating') said 'experiences'. I 'ascension' one 'moves' ;) from "A-and-Z-ness" to "ALLness/ONEness" (wherever ONE's one is at any moment) ".


The 'self' and 'loving' said 'self' is NOT a trap, any more than a (any) 'place' is. I suppose, one could say that a soul is (figuratively) 'trapped', thought it isn't (literally), if and as it was so short-sighted as to choose to stay in the same 'place' (or only explore one, i.e. the same, 'path' )


There are no 'traps' really (though there are those who cast 'nets' and those who swim/fly into them - these can always be 'exited' by intelligently going back the way one came and circling around them, however). From the book I wrote:
There is an excellent Hindu parable about a great seer who, out of the goodness of his heart, informed birds of all species about a terrible bird-catcher and warned them to beware because, sooner or later, the bird-catcher was bound to try and catch them. Not really up to the task of keeping close track of and publicly declaring the many clever ways in which the bird-catcher disguised himself, fooling themselves and others that they were adequately doing their duty, the parrots in the group diligently ‘served’ to pass on the warning, “Watch out for the bird-catcher,” from generation to generation. The wily bird-catcher found this quite to his liking since all he had to do was set up his nets and yell “I see the bird-catcher coming!” while pointing away from them. Birds galore would then fly right into his trap. Needless to say, instead of preying upon the parrots themselves, the bird-catcher would place those he caught in prominence positions to make sure that other birds would hear their ‘message’. (Note: even this parable, but of course minus the gist of the last sentence, has been used to ‘catch’ flocks gullible enough to think that a person telling such a wise story must necessarily be doing so to ‘save’ them.)

As Einstein said (I am paraphrasing from memory here), "A problem cannot be solved (in this case, a question cannot be answered) on the same level on which it was created." In other words, I think the question you pose is the result of 'seeing' in an 'illusion'.

Ah, as I understood it you said previously that ''The idea of loving your 'self' is a 'trap', IMO, because any (particular) 'i'dentity is not LIFE Itself, but a form (i.e. fragment of) of IT''.

So I was thinking out loud about monkeys not thinking too much about what they are but still identifying themselves by means of experiencing life ..

I agree with the digesting of fruit analogy ''considering, contemplating and savoring (eating and digesting?) every 'fruit' one experienced''


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