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Old 13-12-2017, 08:33 AM
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So many of the tools and practices don't seem to lead where the teacher/opiner promises, it's just such a mess in the field of spirituality, and this goes back centuries.

Yes, the false promises are a problem in the real life sense of inciting temptation and craving. A good rule of thumb for me is 'a promise is a lie'.

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Muhammad decided that an angel was talking to him, and the supposed angel said a whole lot of stuff that seemed to be in favour of Muhammad. And billions of people take him as a teacher. Paul did the same for Christianity, thought he had a direct line to Jesus and his opinions have held sway for millenia.

It is a common coercion strategy to assign the discourse to angels and other 'higher powers'.

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These guys just had opinions, and apparently opinions can be very powerful, and can dictate what entire nations believe. But their opinions are not necessarily the truth.

Yes indeed. It is a power game that operates on very subtle levels.

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Thousands of teachers have now set up in the West, each claiming to know the truth, and they promote their opinions as the truth, and will gladly try to take others there, but more likely than not it is the blind leading the blind and naked, and both are heading straight for the ditch.

Truth is more likely to be found within, but where would you find the right tools to find that truth?

The tools of conscious awareness and deliberate attention, which we all have, coupled with our 'truth ability' as it is applied to real lived internal exploration. It has nothing at all to do with true or false propositions.
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