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Originally Posted by Altair
No, you initially buy the chickens and then start a whole new system based upon non-slaughter. As for crowing roosters...
the barns can be put in the back of a garden tens of meters away from houses, and chickens can be kept inside until most people wake up.. 
You say you are concerned about the cows being kept inside, you'd rather see them outside. But if we all followed a vegan diet then what becomes of them? The chickens would be able to rewild no doubt, but cows likely wouldn't as most breeds, especially the commercial ones, are too docile..
I am thinking about solutions here that don't include slaughter and at the same time still provide people with a quick and environmentally sustainable source of protein. The dilemma is what to do with all the roosters.. Perhaps technology is a solution, that is biased towards the females; or perhaps the roosters should be given to pet dogs and zoo carnivores. I don't know, but complete removal from the domestic chicken seems like a missed opportunity to me, because they do provide, in the form of eggs, an easy and green source of protein which requires no slaughter..
Milk, eggs, and honey do not have to be products of suffering..! |
You're still trying to excuse the industries that use animals. You're suggesting ways that we can make them more convenient to us instead of looking at how we can offer them justice, respect and mercy. Are we evolving spiritually or just a herd of wannabe's because it sounds cool?
As for the 'land' issue, let me put it like this: In America, there are approximately 700 million acres of land that is exclusively used to grow animals or their feed. By comparison, the USA uses about 3 million acres of land that grows all the fruit and veggies that are grown for direct use or export. Considering that you get substantially more protein calories from plants than from animals per acre, if the country went vegan, you'd be able to retire a lot of that acreage from being used (wildlife would love that) and still have adequate cropping to feed everyone. (and none of that even addresses the problem of waste/pollution/use of our fresh water drinking supplies and the damage that animal ag does in that arena).
This link will show how many calories you get from animals and how much from plants.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edible...t_area_of_land. If you can find a way to get rid of the vast majority of human beings on this planet, then it wouldn't be impossible to have a cow per family and let the cow live her natural life as well as every baby she ever has. Same with the chickens. But we know that is all a pipe dream in an era of 7.6 billion humans (and ever increasing).
And we'd quit breeding billions of animals just so that they can die when babies. Anyway, that whole question of what would we do with the animals if we all went vegan is a straw man argument isn't it? Societal changes don't happen overnight or even in a year. Changes like that are slow and farmers would just cut back on how many pregnancies they caused and fewer eggs would be set up in hatcheries as the market for them diminished.