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Old 30-07-2015, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mathew James
The Qur'an clearly explains that a prophet was sent to every nation and people. If he follows the Qur'an, he will know that a prophet was sent to the Native American people to guide them on the right path and to teach them what they needed to know.

But, if he is part of a main line Islamic sect who follows the Hadiths like they are part of the Qur'an, he will most likely be closed to the idea that other beliefs are possible. Hopefully he follows all of the signs of Nature as well as the Book ( Qur'an, Gospels, and Torah). Not a closed minded Islamic sect that teaches the Hadiths as being from the Almighty One.

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well the Quran says :

Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other

and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are

devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them

guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then

if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them (4:34)

according to you an open minded person
is person who follow Quran exactly and therefore
able to beat his wife senseless
because the Quran said so

while according to you a close minded person
who follow Hadith
which when Mohammad was asked about that certain verse
he answered by picking up his tooth pick
and poked the man asking him about it
saying : only this hard you're allowed to strike them
which is not beating at all


again Quran says :

As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands 5:38

according to you an open minded person
who follow Quran alone will cut off person hand
for stealing anything

while according to you a close minded person
who follow Hadith and Mohammad teachings

in times of Omar Ibn-Alkattab second Calipha
3 young men to him brought for stealing a camel
he asked why did you steal ?
they answered our master works us and starve us
he then let them go and told their master
if he starve them again and they steal
he's going to cut their master hand not theirs
or are you going to accuse Omar of being close minded
he did not put punishment mentioned in Quran to action
why ? coz of teachings of Mohammad coz of conditions and requirements
for each crime and situation
those stuff not mentioned in Quran


i think before you accuse people of sects of being close minded
Educate your self on history of islam
and Mohammad's teaching

believe in islam Without hadith is
like belief in Islam without Mohammd

i think these two examples are more than enough
for any sane person to make out the logical answer
instead of listening to nonsense insult you pushed
into big number of people by calling them close minded

heck if that above is your ideal of close minded people
am proud to be a close minded person in your perspective

it's called learning and history .. you should try them
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