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Old 22-07-2016, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by IAmNemo
There is no such thing as a "separate individual" but there is indeed such a thing as an "individual".
I don't see your point but go ahead.......

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I think you are perhaps confusing Oneness with 'Sameness'.
Everything is unique but within a singular whole.
That looks like semantics to me. I think you are just doing the word game here and, worse, failing to speak for and about your own, actual experiences. The "singular whole" you write about is the All or Awareness/Life/Absolute or whatever term applies to the Supreme Divine which subdivides itself into all those "unique" parts or states otherwise called Creation or the Universe.

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Think of it like your body. It is not just one singular body but also a collective of unique cells all united and formed into your body. It isn't just 'you'. You are also a collective of unique living organisms.
LOL, think of it like Energy. It's not just one singular "energy" (you) but is all the stuff that appears here - without a break or separation! This is all just one, indivisible energy appearing as lots of apparently separate things/conditions/stuff.

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And not only that, but those cells all have their own unique organs.
And each piece is made up of atoms. And those atoms are made up of particles. And those particles are made of sub particles. And those sub particles are all vibrating waves. And that's as far as we've gotten so far.
That's as far as YOU have gotten so far. I have gotten to quite a different place so please don't lump me in with your "we" thing.

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So let's go the other way!
You are also part of a community. That community is part of a society. All societies are part of humanity. All species of animal are part of life. All life on Earth is but a small part of the whole Earth. Earth is among many planets in the solar system. There are many solar systems in our galaxy. Many galaxies in our universe. And again that's as far as we've gotten on that!
Again, that is as far as YOU have gotten - not me! I'm not part of your "we" and have a totally different perspective on things.

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In any case, these things are all unique, are they not?
All part of a whole, yes?
Yes, infinite Energy or Divine Consciousness can and does appear anyway it wishes to.

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Therefore Oneness is not without individuality or uniqueness. It is the collective of these unique and individual things.
It is not only the apparent collective, it IS the things them self. All there is, is Oneness or Life.

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But what of when one dies? That uniqueness and individuality is no more, it has changed.
Who dies? Infinite Energy cannot die. An apparent individual can die and then become or do certain things since Infinite Consciousness has infinite ways to express. My apparent wife just died and is now living in an apparent afterlife as a different APPARENT person/entity while I, and apparently separate person, live on over here. It's all the Cosmic Game of creation and YOU are the Cosmic Creator of it all.

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But that's okay, right? Because all things are One. The past is never forgotten. The individuality still exists, just in a different form. It exists in the past, which is still part of the whole.
Yes, because you, Infinite Being, can do just about anything you want.

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It exists in memory of those left behind, which is still part of the whole. It exists in all the things effected by that entity. The entire universe is still imprinted with their existence as all things are connected and influenced by each other as part of one singular whole.
Yes, you, the Absolute can have and do all of that while seeming to be: memories, those left behind, parts, entire universe, etc. You are all that there is!

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So, you do not see these 'ghosts' as they are now. You see them as they once were.
I see my late wife as she is now which is way better than how it was for her while on earth.

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You see but your own memories of them. But do not be dismayed by this!
That might be true for you but not me and I'm not dismayed other than at how you cannot use the 'I' word and need to stay focused on me and others. Are you afraid or ashamed of the 'I' word? LOL, try it some time!

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Because the truth is that those memories are what keep them alive.
Not in my experience! They are just as alive right now as they ever were and are not simply "memories". You'd know this if you ever had an encounter with a departed love-one or friend, etc. like both my late wife and I often had.

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What you experienced was your imagination, but what created that part of your imagination was the entities whom you once knew.
Sorry but you are totally wrong there. That might be your experience and, if you were to say so using an 'I' word to describe your own experiences instead of explaining mine, I might take you seriously.

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And in this you'll find that your experiences with them are perhaps more "real" than most other things in life, because they exist within you now. Just as they have always been a part of you.

LOL, you really don't know what you are writing about here! They do exist within me and everything there is but are not "more real" - they are just as real because they are just as alive as me and everything there is - not simply a "part" of anything - that is an illusion!

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Perhaps it isn't easy to say they were a part of your 'imagination', because this makes no distinction from them and the things which you imagine and are not real to you, and that is fine to use some other word for it. They are, after all, a different kind of experience. Such things are just words.
Yes this is all "just words" so what is your point?

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What matters is the fact that they were real to you and they were created by those whom were once real to you, and in doing so they reached through time itself to be there, just as all things do. Imagination is merely the medium for the perception of that reality, where they can be manifested.
Yep, all just words and rather foolish ones at that. When you have had some real and personal experiences with any of this, come tell us - with 'I' words, please.

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Does this satisfy your questions?
LOL, not at all! Does this silly little speech by you satisfy your need to be some kind of IMPORTANT authority on something? It would satisfy me if anything you wrote made any sense or you had the courage to say these are all just your own, personal OPINIONS. Get a back bone and use the 'I' word now and then.
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