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Originally Posted by django
Yes, I agree this is the fuller sense of the 'violent poison' concept, I would just like to point out that this is one systems method that brings a particular outcome. Not all methods require a violent initial stage, and not all methods promote bliss as the desired outcome.
If bliss appeals to someone, and they're willing to pay the price, good luck to them, as long as they can find their real guru as you say. But real gurus are not that hard to find on the internet are they? Both Jonesboy and running have their favourite enlightened gurus online, they should be pretty easy to access nowadays.
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i don't personally have one. but have meditated with a couple in the past that made a difference for me. they are on the Internet.