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Old 05-11-2018, 01:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jonesboy
From the Secret Supreme.


The second state is called pralayakala. This is the state of
negation, where the whole world is negated. And the one who
resides in this world of negation is called pralayakala
pramatri, the observer of the pralayakala state. And this
pramatri, this perceiver, does not experience the state of this
voidness because it is actually the state of unawareness. This
state would be observed at the time of murcchii, when one
becomes comatose, which is like unnatural and heavy sleep,
like deep sleep devoid of dreams. And the observer,
pralayakala pramatri, resides in that void unawareness.

These two states function in the state of individuality, not in
the state of your real nature. These are states of worldly people,
not spiritual aspirants.

In jiigrat, wakefulness, the individual subjective body is
traveling in the world of objectivity (prameya), which comprises
the world of elements, names, forms, words, and sounds.
Here, it loses consciousness of its subjectivity and becomes
one with the objective world. In svapna, the dreaming state, the
individual subjective body travels in the impressions
(samskiiras) of the objective world. Here, it also loses the
awareness of its subjective consciousness. It takes hold of
these impressions and becomes one with the world of impres.
sions. In SU!fupti, deep dreamless sleep, it has entered a state of
complete void (sunya). If it was previously traveling in the
world of objectivity in the waking state, then upon entering
deep sleep, it loses consciousness of this objectivity and also of
its subjectivity. If it was previously traveling in the world of
impressions in the dreaming state, then upon entering deep
sleep, it loses consciousness of these impressions. In deep
sleep, it is no longer aware of anything. The impressions of the
objective world remain but these are as if dead. When it again
returns from the state of deep sleep, these impressions, which
were seemingly dead, again come to life. And when, by the
. grace of a master, this subjective body enters into subjective
consciousness with full awareness, and maintaining μnbroken
awareness becomes fully illumined in its own Self, this is
called the fourth state, turya. And when this individual subjective
body takes a firm hold of turya and does not lose consciousness
for even a moment, then it is established in that state
called turyiititii, above the fourth.

The Mandukya Upanishad, which is the shortest of the Upanishads, goes into that exactly but not to the detail that you just gave. That is one of the criticisms of the Mandukya Upanishad --- the lack of details. However, it serves as an excellent catalyst to meditation and discovery of what the words in the "Supreme Secret" quoted above can only attempt to describe.

Good post though !
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