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Originally Posted by janielee
The problem with these discussions is some people speak from God realization and others see it as a concept foistered on them.
Look in reality, if there is God, that God is unknowable, yet sense-able. In the world of talk and duality, the closest way to point to is some words. So we have words: God is as good as any of them. Words don't matter so much as the realization of God-ness. Something like that.
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Alan Watts calls it "Atheism in the name of God," and it simply means the suspension of all beliefs and conclusions about what God is or isn't, because beliefs and conclusions come from an egoic mind that isn't supposed to be able to know God anyway - and those beliefs and conclusions also comes from the egoic mind. Yeah I know, it gets a bit bonkers, doesn't it?
Your reality is defined by your perceptions, your perceptions are defined by your beliefs and your beliefs are defined by your definitions so words are important because they create our reality. They are also a reflection of your paradigm, and God is a reflection of that paradigm. So yes, words do matter because they create your reality in which God exists in whatever shape or form that my take. And again it's back to the egoic mind.
The problem with these discussions is that few people have asked the right questions to begin with.