10-02-2017, 10:30 PM
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[quote=Joyce]
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Originally Posted by bartholomew
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There is a natural progression which states that first comes faith. This is sufficient for the beginner. Next is knowledge. After a time we accumulate this and it will naturally replace faith. We now know things for sure. Lastly is wisdom which is the child of knowledge, born of experience. It is safe to assume that an older person has their own wisdom. It is, after all, hard to avoid.
* * Just getting it; how to be aware when things are written. And you've all written today. Barth . . I'm not clear where you're 'coming from'; perhaps it's just me, and I'm NOT of the belief faith is replaced by knowledge?!? I can't even imagine what you mean. To me faith is that things being exactly as they should be, things always work out, this higher power doesn't necessairly prevent things from happening, so we have faith not to worry, faith love is the most powerful energy there is, blabla blabla blabla. Wisdom is from experience, so how does that replace faith?!?
I'm quite certain you won't even reply and I won't be surprised. So I'm letting this go. I think something is a farse!
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I understand what you mean. Think philosophically and it will become more clear. Some tenants of faith we retain all our lives. Many others are no longer necessary because we have learned. When I was in the first grade and in Sunday school I took on faith what I was told. I no longer need faith to believe there is a spiritual universe. I know from first hand experience that it is real. I know how to access it and do, quite frequently. Faith in this has become moot. So this is a case of sure knowledge replacing faith. But that is not enough. As we practice our new knowledge we gain experience. We learn what can be done and what cannot, and under what conditions. These qualifiers can be called wisdom. They are born of experience.
Throughout the above process which takes decades, some things are still taken on faith but their time will come.
I could, all the while, say that I have faith that everything will be OK. This is another sort of statement. Somewhat less pragmatic. It is very true too that we humans often fail to understand one another. Maybe this is the single greatest cause of trouble in the world. And language, any and all of them including mathematics, is inadequate. It always falls short.
If I were perfect I could have written my statement a little better I suppose. I have faith that someday I may actually do this. ha ha 
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