I see how only a few gents have replied. It's always good to get a broader perspective.
I say this because in particular, it's important IMO to pay attention to the vulnerabilities of others, as ThatMan has noted above concerning himself. These are vulnerabilities that very few women have as their experience is fundamentally not the same. We cannot speak for men regarding how their inherent vulnerabilities as men are no big deal, nothing to be concerned about, and/or should be disregarded. IMO it is dehumanising to all when we do so. It would be like men disregarding our inherent physical vulnerabilities as women (to rape, coercion, exploitation) or telling us it's no big deal.
Because of...
-men's extreme vulnerability to casual sex and porn
-the dopamine "crack" hits men experience when streaming porn or having sex that is detached or ungrounded
-and the prevalent level of disordered, misaligned, addictive responses the "average gent" now has regarding sex and porn...
...IMO it's very hard for anyone (but women in particular) to meaningfully comment on why it's ok, neutral, or even good and right for men to have casual sex or stream porn.
We all have our opinions, sure. But the facts of men's day-to-day experiences on the ground simply run counter to many of these positions.
For many men, they have stated they are (broadly speaking) in 1 of 2 places at any given time regarding sex...
Place #1 - Amoral
You can either extract sex from the context of our mutual humanity and -- EXACTLY like porn does -- treat it like it happens in a vacuum with a bunch of mindless soulless meat sacks grinding on each other. "Thus", no one's humanity, highest good, or other ethical issues will be considered...it's just use and abuse freely and egregiously.
Place #2 - Centred and Integrated
Or you can consider sex within the context of our mutual humanity AND consider our mutual humanity as inseparable from our physical bodies, which house our souls, spirits, and consciousness -- and are not just mindless soulless meat sacks with genitals attached.
Depending on where you start, you arrive at VERY different places on this topic.
The thing many men state is that they may commit to #2 as aligned with who they are at centre, at heart. But if they are vulnerable at certain times and places, they may go against who they are at centre and align with #1 because it gives them the crack hit before crashing and craving more hits. Only authentic love can buffer and transform that destructive effect or caustic aftertaste into one that is also right-aligned with their humanity. Integrated with their heart centre.
And this is something many women don't get...that
if men do not choose to be at #2, then broadly they are at (or go to) #1, where men tend to become unmoored at centre and untethered to their core humanity.
We don't understand it viscerally because, fundamentally, women don't have this vulnerability. And yet, women generally DO understand viscerally how it feels to be used for sex apart from love, or how it feels to be forced, coerced, assaulted, or raped -- clearly apart from love. Because we DO have this vulnerability.
So, if at least some men say unmoored (casual) sex and porn usage harms their humanity and
they have a fundamental vulnerability in this area...then IMO we need to pay attention and
be sensitive to this, rather than exploiting it, or ignoring it. Because it's not our fundamental vulnerability as women.
Just as when at least some women say exploitation, sexual use or coercion, and/or rape or sexual violence is harmful to us, then we need to pay attention -- and particularly men need to pay attention and be sensitive to it, because it's not their fundamental vulnerability.
Peace & blessings
7L