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Originally Posted by Joe Mc
Non Duality doesn't exist in the field of words. Because words objectivise things immediately, before the ink dries on the page. So we somehow have to leave behind the world of words if we are to have a direct realisation of the non dual. And we have to do this in a world which completely emphasises the grasping and acquisition of words through its education systems etc. What a dilemma. I don't mean to destroy words, I love words myself, as some kind of poet and songwriter, i adore the sound and song of the written word. But in the realm of seeking, words can merely point and allude at something, at least in the beginning ? But the temptation seems to be to become caught up in them and become a glorious arguer for spiritual truth ? Seems totally absurd in some ways but it fascinates me why people do it, because some of the thought processes and logic i've seen here regarding proofs of all kinds of arguments, from the existence of God to the existence of non existence have been masterpieces in wordery, really high powered intellectual production and yet somehow wrong or partial without having the grace but perhaps more so wisdom to admit that this is the case. Says my great high fuluting self through the medium of words. lol...felt i just had to chip in ...probably a load of bollocks ! lol
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Hi
It is true that there are many things in life where words just can describe the reality /experiences fully . As the saying goes "taste of the pudding is in eating " , such things are best experienced . Those who don't have any inkling of such experience will not be able to understand and those who have felt it , do not need any description of it. So in many cases such exercise may result in futile effort with little positive outcome .
However looking this use plainly from these angles would purely be a simplistic approach and would not do enough justice to variety permutation/ combinations life proposes . As we all know spirituality is not a one moment experience . It's a journey (spanning many year/decade /birth) often very difficult and many a times resulting in failure also . In this journey many a times seeker need guidance / motivation / imagination / company of like minded . If somebody who have gone through rigors of Spirituality and is able to guide them with some words despite all its limitations , there is nothing wrong .
If fact if you see the entire journey of science , all discoveries and inventions were never understood by others . Then scientific community with their efforts , hardwork and honesty shared it vividly , with examples and elaborations . That all made a lot of difference to posterity to build upon the experience of their ancestors . I also believe spirituality is no different in this respect.